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Corey "the slow boat to GC17" Ellis
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Re: Welcome to the RFC - Corey Ellis
Hate to say it but Ellis is playing the same bruise free football that I observed at the state carnival.
Hate to say it but Ellis is playing the same bruise free football that I observed at the state carnival.
bullus_hit said:
bullus_hit said:
Re: Welcome to the RFC - Corey Ellis
If people are surprised about his inside credentials then they should go over the tapes of his Vic Metro performances, he simply didn't do enough to suggest he had an inside game which would translate to AFL football. He's being played in defence because there's no way he's ready for the centre square, this is another example of Frank ignoring the evidence before him and speculating based on a few strong TAC games against sub standard opposition.
I watched Darcy Parish today and used him as a benchmark for where Ellis stands as a potential onballer, the reality is we will have to teach him some inside mongrel because at the moment it just doesn't come naturally. Parish is also one year behind in development, for a second year player the signs are incredibly worrying.
zippadeee said:
If people are surprised about his inside credentials then they should go over the tapes of his Vic Metro performances, he simply didn't do enough to suggest he had an inside game which would translate to AFL football. He's being played in defence because there's no way he's ready for the centre square, this is another example of Frank ignoring the evidence before him and speculating based on a few strong TAC games against sub standard opposition.
I watched Darcy Parish today and used him as a benchmark for where Ellis stands as a potential onballer, the reality is we will have to teach him some inside mongrel because at the moment it just doesn't come naturally. Parish is also one year behind in development, for a second year player the signs are incredibly worrying.
Re: Welcome to the RFC - Corey Ellis
This might sound harsh but it was disappointing he did nothing but stand around like a little school boy whilst Viney was wrestling Rance after the Watts hit. What's Viney 20 , 21 years old? He took it up to Rance. He had no fear and no issues about taking on a bloke 10 kegs heavier than him.
Ellis just stood there watching. When instead he should have been flying the flag for his teammate irrespective of what he done.
That passage in a nutshell typifies our draftees of late. Nice kids with zero mongrel in them.
This might sound harsh but it was disappointing he did nothing but stand around like a little school boy whilst Viney was wrestling Rance after the Watts hit. What's Viney 20 , 21 years old? He took it up to Rance. He had no fear and no issues about taking on a bloke 10 kegs heavier than him.
Ellis just stood there watching. When instead he should have been flying the flag for his teammate irrespective of what he done.
That passage in a nutshell typifies our draftees of late. Nice kids with zero mongrel in them.
Re: Welcome to the RFC - Corey Ellis
Would love to see some players who show a bit of mongrel attitude about them (that doesn't mean dirty players) recruited to the Club.
Those sorts of players who simply hate losing a contest or being beaten by an opponent ... those sorts of players who keep digging deep to be competitive beasts ... those sorts of players who keep on having a crack because that's the only way they know how to play the game.
Seems the modern-day young footballer is programmed and trained as and to be an elite athlete rather than as a fair dinkum footballer encouraged to act on instinct and show individual flair.
Maybe, for my way of thinking, there are just too many 'systems' involved in footy nowadays.
Smoking Aces said:
Would love to see some players who show a bit of mongrel attitude about them (that doesn't mean dirty players) recruited to the Club.
Those sorts of players who simply hate losing a contest or being beaten by an opponent ... those sorts of players who keep digging deep to be competitive beasts ... those sorts of players who keep on having a crack because that's the only way they know how to play the game.
Seems the modern-day young footballer is programmed and trained as and to be an elite athlete rather than as a fair dinkum footballer encouraged to act on instinct and show individual flair.
Maybe, for my way of thinking, there are just too many 'systems' involved in footy nowadays.
Re: Welcome to the RFC - Corey Ellis
Well to this point you have it nailed but - were not those stats and facets you have mentioned fully available to the recruiting department?
Who went in the spots immediately after him? Not Cockatoo i hope he is really starting to develop now in their system
bullus_hit said:
Well to this point you have it nailed but - were not those stats and facets you have mentioned fully available to the recruiting department?
Who went in the spots immediately after him? Not Cockatoo i hope he is really starting to develop now in their system
Re: Welcome to the RFC - Corey Ellis
Was diabolical. Bring in Short instead, at least he plays with some confidence and intent and desire.
Was diabolical. Bring in Short instead, at least he plays with some confidence and intent and desire.
Re: Welcome to the RFC - Corey Ellis
Is that the write-up from Francis Jackson's notebook?
Merveille said:
Is that the write-up from Francis Jackson's notebook?
Re: Welcome to the RFC - Corey Ellis
Jake King had obvious limitations as a player, but this is one valuable aspect he brought to the team that was lacking from most others.
Jake King had obvious limitations as a player, but this is one valuable aspect he brought to the team that was lacking from most others.
Re: Welcome to the RFC - Corey Ellis
I'm still backing him. Didn't think it was a big a deal.
I'm still backing him. Didn't think it was a big a deal.
Re: Welcome to the RFC - Corey Ellis
I'm still hopeful also, Snake ... but he does look a little out of his depth and overwhelmed at the moment.
Just wondering if he has a natural inclination/instinct for the contest or whether he is one of those outside players who can deliver the ball well, given time and space?
tigersnake said:
I'm still hopeful also, Snake ... but he does look a little out of his depth and overwhelmed at the moment.
Just wondering if he has a natural inclination/instinct for the contest or whether he is one of those outside players who can deliver the ball well, given time and space?
Re: Welcome to the RFC - Corey Ellis
Dan Jackson as with Push up ,have left a massive hole ,these guys had the agro we currently lack in spades , we would be a different side if they were still playing.
Dan Jackson as with Push up ,have left a massive hole ,these guys had the agro we currently lack in spades , we would be a different side if they were still playing.
Re: Welcome to the RFC - Corey Ellis
Not harsh. It was very disappointing.
Took him down a notch in my eyes.
I don't care if you're built like a twig. It's all about attitude and Corey didn't fly the flag when he need to.
In fact he's often looked intimidated out there with the big boys.
Smoking Aces said:
Not harsh. It was very disappointing.
Took him down a notch in my eyes.
I don't care if you're built like a twig. It's all about attitude and Corey didn't fly the flag when he need to.
In fact he's often looked intimidated out there with the big boys.
Re: Welcome to the RFC - Corey Ellis
Still believe in the boy. Just needs to come out of his shell.
Still believe in the boy. Just needs to come out of his shell.