Not a Yes Minister fan? It's the oldest trick in the book.
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Not a Yes Minister fan? It's the oldest trick in the book.
Fair enough I didn't see that. That sounds promising and I don't want him to resign. But he needs to get on top of this and immediately remove control of the hotel quarantine and hand it to the military or some other body that actually knows what it's doing. If he is yet to do that then that is another blight on his management.
Personally I think Victoria and Australia have been lucky to a certain extent. We have done some things well, but have been very lax on others.
It wasn't all that long ago that thousands of people were coming in from overseas everyday, were just given a sheet of paper explaining COVID-19 and were sent on their way, they weren't even temperature tested.
It wasn't all that long ago that thousands of people were coming in from overseas everyday, were just given a sheet of paper explaining COVID-19 and were sent on their way, they weren't even temperature tested.
Victoria's hotel quarantine guards accused of 'sleeping with guests'
Explosive allegations against hotel quarantine private contractors as coronavirus outbreak continues.
7news.com.au
He has no intention of changing according to his quote here.
I think he or Jenny will be resigning over this in time.
Wilson security are a pretty well renowned outfit, not some dodgy bros. The LNP use them plenty themselves.
Surely their protocols should be under the most scrutiny here?
Surely their protocols should be under the most scrutiny here?
Sorry, Tooheys but he didn’t take “complete responsibility “ but in fact answered that it “wasn’t a question for the premier of the day to answer”.
Watching 7.30 Wednesday 1/7/2020 in iview
https://iview.abc.net.au/show/7-30/series/0/video/NC2001H103S00
Baloo sums it up in the above post. You need to have the right training, protocols and discipline.
Who would you chose to protect you? ADF or security contractors?
If he is still engaging the security firms after all that happened well IMO that is complete negligence and both he and Mikakos will deserve whatever comes their way.Victoria's hotel quarantine guards accused of 'sleeping with guests'
Explosive allegations against hotel quarantine private contractors as coronavirus outbreak continues.
He has no intention of changing according to his quote here.
I think he or Jenny will be resigning over this in time.
"Can't go back and change." What a load of horse *smile*.
I've no idea of the process or what was pitched to who.
BTW I'm not excusing the error. Clearly a big one has been made here.
Absolutely they should be under scrutiny; massively.
However, it was the Andrews Govt decision to employ them at the taxpayers' expense. Ultimately it is a Govt decision. The Govt. manages the crisis. It is a massive *smile* up and Andrews needs to wear it.
He needs to reverse this decision now. If he doesn’t I think he won’t last in the top job.
Hardly matters if you admit or deny it, Victoria's Hotel quarantine has been ineptly handled and a stuff up of monumental proportions leaving us an outlier State and a bit of a laughing stock, (although it's no laughing matter).
Cedar meats another debacle and the cause of several of the present lockdown hotspots.
Cedar meats another debacle and the cause of several of the present lockdown hotspots.
I guess everyone has different sources of numbers. This from John Hopkins
Global Deaths Due to Various Causes and COVID-19
A Flourish data visualisation by Ian Barratt
public.flourish.studio
Yet another reason for the government not to contract out to the private sector, their interest is profit and profit alone. The security industry is notorious for sub-contracting and it wouldn't surprise me if the security guards responsible for the Hotel quarantine were actually sub contractors.
The government needs to wear this, but so does the security industry. The government at least has the excuse that they engaged the security companies to do a job and the security companies said they could. I hope they are not paying the security companies, they did not fulfill their contracts.
As for leaving this to the security contractors, I have heard a few times over the last couple of days that the Victorian government is doing 2 things: no longer accepting travelers returning from overseas (for 2 weeks I think), and bringing in corrections to run the quarantine (not sure why corrections, but I suppose if they are available and capable?).
It will take time to get the latest outbreak down again but they are acting swiftly and I will be surprised if an outbreak doesn't appear somewhere else over the next few months.
DS
The government needs to wear this, but so does the security industry. The government at least has the excuse that they engaged the security companies to do a job and the security companies said they could. I hope they are not paying the security companies, they did not fulfill their contracts.
As for leaving this to the security contractors, I have heard a few times over the last couple of days that the Victorian government is doing 2 things: no longer accepting travelers returning from overseas (for 2 weeks I think), and bringing in corrections to run the quarantine (not sure why corrections, but I suppose if they are available and capable?).
It will take time to get the latest outbreak down again but they are acting swiftly and I will be surprised if an outbreak doesn't appear somewhere else over the next few months.
DS
No the Government does not have an excuse.
They should have gone down the path of using the ADF like all the other states.
As I said before - jobs for the boys.
I guess everyone has different sources of numbers. This from John Hopkins
Global Deaths Due to Various Causes and COVID-19
A Flourish data visualisation by Ian Barrattpublic.flourish.studio
I was looking for that one. Thanks Bad News Bear
