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Baloo

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So Sutton should be drawn and quartered for not reading an email he was CCed into.

Yeah, a bit odd. As a rule at work I don't bother with emails I am cc'd on, unless it's from my boss. Standard time management technique is to move emails that you are cc'd on to another place and concentrate on the ones addressed to you. I can imagine during the whole covid crisis that Sutton's mailbox would have been ridiculous to manage
 
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IanG

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Yeah, a bit odd. As a rule at work I don't bother with emails I am cc'd on, unless it's from my boss. Standard time management technique is to move emails that you are cc'd on to another place and concentrate on the ones addressed to you. I can imagine during the whole covid crisis that Sutton's mailbox would have been ridiculous to manage

over 30,000 emails apparently, and yes I agree
 

22nd Man

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Yeah, a bit odd. As a rule at work I don't bother with emails I am cc'd on, unless it's from my boss. Standard time management technique is to move emails that you are cc'd on to another place and concentrate on the ones addressed to you. I can imagine during the whole covid crisis that Sutton's mailbox would have been ridiculous to manage
That's the trouble with modern work places, managimg the inbox is too often the measure of performance.
 

DavidSSS

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Dec 11, 2017
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Well, I suppose even on Grand Final day we have to deal with COVID.

7 new infections today, not so good but hopefully mainly reflects increased and targetted testing.

COVID19 7 day ave 24102020.jpg

The numbers:

DateNew Infections7 Day Trailing ave5 Day Centred ave14 Day Trailing ave
10 October 20201210.2912.209.57
11 October 20201411.1411.2010.21
12 October 20201110.719.6010.36
13 October 2020510.717.6010.00
14 October 2020610.295.009.43
15 October 202029.143.209.21
16 October 202017.293.008.64
17 October 202025.862.008.07
18 October 202044.432.207.79
19 October 202013.003.006.86
20 October 202032.712.806.71
21 October 202052.573.406.43
22 October 202012.435.79
23 October 202073.295.29

The 7 and 5 day averages are affected more by the larger number today so have gone up, but from a low base now. The 14 day average is still going down so hopefully a few days with lower numbers will see it go down again.

Should see some restrictions come off tomorrow, the Melbourne average is apparently about 5 as the above are the Victoria numbers.

Going to be Zooming my daughter for the Grand Final instead of both of us being at Punt Rd like in 2017 and 2019.

DS
 

bigwow

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Jul 24, 2003
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Well, I suppose even on Grand Final day we have to deal with COVID.

7 new infections today, not so good but hopefully mainly reflects increased and targetted testing.

View attachment 10967

The numbers:

DateNew Infections7 Day Trailing ave5 Day Centred ave14 Day Trailing ave
10 October 20201210.2912.209.57
11 October 20201411.1411.2010.21
12 October 20201110.719.6010.36
13 October 2020510.717.6010.00
14 October 2020610.295.009.43
15 October 202029.143.209.21
16 October 202017.293.008.64
17 October 202025.862.008.07
18 October 202044.432.207.79
19 October 202013.003.006.86
20 October 202032.712.806.71
21 October 202052.573.406.43
22 October 202012.435.79
23 October 202073.295.29

The 7 and 5 day averages are affected more by the larger number today so have gone up, but from a low base now. The 14 day average is still going down so hopefully a few days with lower numbers will see it go down again.

Should see some restrictions come off tomorrow, the Melbourne average is apparently about 5 as the above are the Victoria numbers.

Going to be Zooming my daughter for the Grand Final instead of both of us being at Punt Rd like in 2017 and 2019.

DS
6 from a known cluster, so probably linked to the school kid from last week. If his parents kept him home, like they should have, maybe it's a 0 today.
 
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MD Jazz

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6 from a known cluster, so probably linked to the school kid from last week. If his parents kept him home, like they should have, maybe it's a 0 today.

Let’s hope they get the contact tracing right on this.
 
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Legends of 2017

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Have I got this right? Andrews said if the 14 day average is under 5, restrictions will be eased. The figure is now below 5 ( I believe), but easing of restrictions is going to be delayed?
 

Althom

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Have I got this right? Andrews said if the 14 day average is under 5, restrictions will be eased. The figure is now below 5 ( I believe), but easing of restrictions is going to be delayed?
Awaiting test results from the northern suburbs outbreak apparently.
 
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mrposhman

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Have I got this right? Andrews said if the 14 day average is under 5, restrictions will be eased. The figure is now below 5 ( I believe), but easing of restrictions is going to be delayed?

There were actually 2 parts to it, under 5 cases per day but also under 5 cases of mystery transmission. Part 1 was achieved, part 2 wasn't. However that hasn't caused the delay, the outbreak where they have done targeted testing are waiting for between 1000-2000 test results to come back, they just want to be sure that this isn't smouldering in the community. Should find out Tuesday.
 
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MD Jazz

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Yeah, a bit odd. As a rule at work I don't bother with emails I am cc'd on, unless it's from my boss. Standard time management technique is to move emails that you are cc'd on to another place and concentrate on the ones addressed to you. I can imagine during the whole covid crisis that Sutton's mailbox would have been ridiculous to manage

Pretty good summary. Sutton will be next to go.
 

DavidSSS

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Dec 11, 2017
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7 again, most seem to be from one cluster. Shows just how it takes very few people to really stuff this up.

There is simply no excuse for visiting other households at the moment. We were planning to have our daughter over for both her and my birthday soon, but that will have to wait now because everybody, not just 99.9% but everybody, needs to abide by the rules.

Here's how it looks:

COVID19 7 day ave 25102020.jpg

The real worry is the shorter term averages rising, this points to the 14 day average plateauing again or even going up. What a bummer.

The recent numbers:

DateNew Infections7 Day Trailing ave5 Day centred ave14 Day Trailing ave
11 October 20201411.1411.2010.21
12 October 20201110.719.6010.36
13 October 2020510.717.6010.00
14 October 2020610.295.009.43
15 October 202029.143.209.21
16 October 202017.293.008.64
17 October 202025.862.008.07
18 October 202044.432.207.79
19 October 202013.003.006.86
20 October 202032.712.806.71
21 October 202052.573.406.43
22 October 202012.434.605.79
23 October 202073.295.29
24 October 202074.004.93

We're almost there but I just don't know how we get the message across that no indoor visiting is the only way to get it down to the next level.

Active cases under 100 as of yesterday so that's a good sign. Less active cases means less transmission as long as we find them all.

DS
 
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Ridley

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0 new cases 0 deaths. Woohoo!
Excellent news. Wonder if it will be enough for Andrews to release the brakes. He needs to; time to get Victoria moving. Like NSW we are going to have outbreaks but with such low numbers we should be able to manage it effectively.

If the VIC authorities haven't got their *smile* together by now then one has to wonder at the competence of those in charge.
 
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IanG

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Excellent news. Wonder if it will be enough for Andrews to release the brakes. He needs to; time to get Victoria moving. Like NSW we are going to have outbreaks but with such low numbers we should be able to manage it effectively.

If the VIC authorities haven't got their *smile* together by now then one has to wonder at the competence of those in charge.

I agree he has to announce the easing of restrictions today, it will be a big mistake not to.
 

Brodders17

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I agree he has to announce the easing of restrictions today, it will be a big mistake not to.
i think half of the relevant test results have come back, the other half will be today- so in tomorrows results, tho they will know later today.
there wont be an announcement today- and based off yesterdays logic there shouldnt be. (and I think Andrews said somewhere it would be Tuesday.)
 

MD Jazz

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Not an unfair summary Ian. But I read this and question the real foresight of those in charge.

It stretches credulity that Sutton didn’t know about the use of private security until May. But it should be said that even if he had, it probably wouldn’t have made any difference.

He said in his evidence to the inquiry that he wouldn’t necessarily have acted to stop it. “I think the wisdom, we have in hindsight is a key element here. I’m not sure anyone at the point in time of decision-making around hotel quarantine commencement might have been able to foreshadow some of the complexities of that workforce.”


Would it be unfair to expect someone with Brett's background and expertise to identify that quarantine was the most crucial element of risk around the spread of the virus? or that someone involved in all those discussions around quarantine didn't say lets make sure we get this right, 100% watertight? It is easy in hindsight but that's why people are charged with immense responsibility and remunerated accordingly (maybe the pay isn't enough to get the very best people?)