Coronavirus

[Althom]

Coronavirus Australia: AstraZeneca COVID vaccine rollout pause called on by scientists (watoday.com.au)
This is an interesting article. The Australasian Virology Society called for a pause and 24 hours later changed their position.

 

[antman]

yeah I thought that was strange, some results showed up to 90% effectiveness with the reduced dose for the AZ vax.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Coronavirus Australia: AstraZeneca COVID vaccine rollout pause called on by scientists (watoday.com.au)

When asked why the society was changing its official position at the last moment, its president, Professor Gilda Tachedjian, said: "That’s for us to know and you to find out".

“One reason is we don’t want to undermine the confidence in the vaccine."

Less than inspiring.

 

[IanG]

Coronavirus Australia: AstraZeneca COVID vaccine rollout pause called on by scientists (watoday.com.au)
This is an interesting article. The Australasian Virology Society called for a pause and 24 hours later changed their position.

Maybe pressure was brought to bear:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1349108153711955968

 

[Tigers of Old]

Sadly this doesn't surprise one iota.

 

[Althom]

Less than inspiring.

Significantly less.
Sounds like internal politics getting in the way of science.

 

[Althom]

Maybe pressure was brought to bear:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1349108153711955968

It's on Twitter therefore it must be true

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

The Australian article mentions the possibility that it may not be possible to receive multiple vaccines. I would hate for a vaccine that provides inferior protection to exclude me from later getting a 'good' one.

The government has invested a lot of money on the Astra Zeneca, but first is not necessarily best. Need to slow down a bit and get this right. Ignore pressure from Labor to accelerate the process.

 

[IanG]

It's on Twitter therefore it must be true

Proof is part of that thread:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1349104784184274944

 

[Althom]

yeah I thought that was strange, some results showed up to 90% effectiveness with the reduced dose for the AZ vax.

Professor Kelly has already cautioned about reading too much into preliminary results but it seems some people just can't help themselves

 

[Althom]

Proof is part of that thread:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1349104784184274944

It's hardly surprising that an Australian should have shares in Australian company CSL.
I have shares in CSL.
Most people with a super fund probably do.
It is drawing a very long bow to suggest that, on the basis of that shareholding, they can influence the opinion of The Australasian Virology Society.

 

[IanG]

It's hardly surprising that an Australian should have shares in Australian company CSL.
I have shares in CSL.
Most people with a super fund probably do.
It is drawing a very long bow to suggest that, on the basis of that shareholding, they can influence the opinion of The Australasian Virology Society.

Hence why I said maybe. But he did buy at least some of the shares only 2 months before the agreement on AstraZeneca was announced.

 

[Baloo]

chuckled at a Twitter tweet comparing the governments choice of vaccine as being the "fibre to the node" of vaccines.

 

[IanG]

Twitter thread from Allen Cheng (Vic Deputy CHO) on the vaccine, he makes some good points, notably supply of the pfizer vaccine is limited so we should be getting all possible vaccines:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1349135134776119296

 

[Althom]

Hence why I said maybe. But he did buy at least some of the shares only 2 months before the agreement on AstraZeneca was announced.

According to someone on Twitter. I note there's no source quoted.

 

[IanG]

According to someone on Twitter. I note there's no source quoted.

He declared CSL purchases in his register of members interests dated 30 June, he had none on his 30 March declaration. Proof is there if you look.

 

[Althom]

The best post on that thread?

"you know who else has shares in CSL pretty much everyone via their superfund ..................... this is so absolutely stupid its not funny.
Stop undermining public health with conspiracy bullshit"

 

[Althom]

He declared CSL purchases in his register of members interests dated 30 June, he had none on his 30 March declaration. Proof is there if you look.

and as I said "It is drawing a very long bow to suggest that, on the basis of that shareholding, they can influence the opinion of The Australasian Virology Society" but carry on with your little conspiracy
If backbenchers buying a few shares influences an independent association of medical professionals then that association is neither independent, professional or worth taking note of

 

[Althom]

yeah I thought that was strange, some results showed up to 90% effectiveness with the reduced dose for the AZ vax.

Even at the lower level it's more effective than the annual flu jab.

 

[IanG]

and as I said "It is drawing a very long bow to suggest that, on the basis of that shareholding, they can influence the opinion of The Australasian Virology Society" but carry on with your little conspiracy
If backbenchers buying a few shares influences an independent association of medical professionals then that association is neither independent, professional or worth taking note of

Already answered now we're just going around in circles.