Coronavirus

[Mr T.]

I knew I should've avoided the news, starting to get anxious again... more cases? Strained hospitals? What happened to lockdown X when we peaked - hospitals coped then?

Or are they just strategically creating news to get people to vaccinate? I recall working on a Water Restriction campaign years ago whereby our work was option B or C, when they leaked A and the public hated it then B kicked in... I fear that Dan will not open up according to the National Cabinet agreement, he will go rogue and then we can say goodby to the school year and many businesses with that too.

 

[lamb22]

Uttar Pradesh also leading the way on vaccination in India

UP’s Vaccine Feat: Nearly 2 crore people fully vaccinated against Covid-19 over 10.33 crore Doses Administered So Far - Live Uttar Pradesh

Giving a major boost to the covid-19 vaccination drive which is already being conducted at a rapid pace, Uttar Pradesh on Monday administered over 32.9 lakh doses, making it one of the highest ever single-day vaccine coverage for the state. This vaccine landmark was achieved under a mega free...

www.liveuttarpradesh.com

True they are now 13% fully vaccinated

Covid-19: Over 13% fully jabbed in Uttar Pradesh | Lucknow News - Times of India

More than 13% of Uttar Pradesh’s population is now fully vaccinated now. As per the Cowin portal data updated till 9pm on Tuesday, over 2 crore benefi

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

They were well under 5% when they crushed the delta curve in June.

 

[lamb22]

You still think Ivermectin is an anti-viral Lamb? Seems to go against what you said a few weeks back, that it's purely a therapeutic.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this latest post Anty. How exactly is being an anti viral and a therapeutic mutually exclusive?

BTW Anty some more information on the Ivermectin home kits you had asked about

 

[Sintiger]

Interested in opinions but I think this is a truly disgusting cartoon by Leunig

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Not sure about disgusting. Social commentary on a complex issue.

 

[Bunnerz]

I knew I should've avoided the news, starting to get anxious again... more cases? Strained hospitals? What happened to lockdown X when we peaked - hospitals coped then?

Or are they just strategically creating news to get people to vaccinate? I recall working on a Water Restriction campaign years ago whereby our work was option B or C, when they leaked A and the public hated it then B kicked in... I fear that Dan will not open up according to the National Cabinet agreement, he will go rogue and then we can say goodby to the school year and many businesses with that too.

Next week will likely be more cases. School is back.
Interesting.

 

[MB78]

Great news, just reported,that imbecile cop who slammed the kid's head onto the concrete ground at Flinders st station i mentioned last week, well he has been suspended. Awesone stuff

Development as police investigate confronting footage of Flinders Street Station incident

Video of a Melbourne police officer appearing to lift a man from behind and then slamming him to the ground emerged last Wednesday.

7news.com.au

I hope the young person involved is ok. And I think it’s worse that this police officer is an acting sergeant. If the police officer has a good record I hope he can keep his career as the police have been out under a lot of stress lately.

Interested in opinions but I think this is a truly disgusting cartoon by Leunig
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I think it’s in poor taste, but not offended.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

I knew I should've avoided the news, starting to get anxious again... more cases? Strained hospitals? What happened to lockdown X when we peaked - hospitals coped then?

Or are they just strategically creating news to get people to vaccinate? I recall working on a Water Restriction campaign years ago whereby our work was option B or C, when they leaked A and the public hated it then B kicked in... I fear that Dan will not open up according to the National Cabinet agreement, he will go rogue and then we can say goodby to the school year and many businesses with that too.

Talk of roadmaps etc creates the illusion that the situation is controlled. It's certainly not and I wouldn't expect Dan to bow to pressure and open up ahead of time. If he thinks he can get to 90% without it dragging out unduly, he'll hang on until 90%. Some of the other premiers will be similar.

NSW, as the state that *smile* up, gets to be the guinea pig.

 

[lamb22]

Interested in opinions but I think this is a truly disgusting cartoon by Leunig
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Its sad that this discussion is so polarised that you cannot recognise a legitimate argument about state power over individual objection regardless of whether you believe the objection has merit or not. Its not as if a state would ever abuse their powers right?

Every policy tool is acceptable if you 'follow the science". I think the eugenicists had the same philosophy.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Interested in opinions but I think this is a truly disgusting cartoon by Leunig

It's just a drawing. Not a view I share but it's an arresting visual.
Seen plenty worse than this on the internet regarding the subject matter.

 

[22nd Man]

Interested in opinions but I think this is a truly disgusting cartoon by Leunig
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Interesting take. But his talent is that he doesn't think like the rest of us. Probably could have made the same point without the Beijing insert.

 

[Redford]

Mark Knight is worse. Prick of a bloke. (And his GF posters aren’t anywhere near as good as Weg’s either.)

 

[BT Tiger]

Andrews has consistently said we're following the Doherty plan. We are well and truly on the way to 80% double dose, its just a matter of time until we get there. If anything, I'd be expecting the 80% double-dose date to move forward once we're more secure with vaccine supplies. Martin Foley again today stressed we haven't got confirmation on the Pfizer vaccine delivery at the end of Oct, despite what was being reported elsewhere. Presuming this does arrive, there's no reason not to ask those waiting for a second dose to bring their bookings forward where practical.

What I'm more concerned about is winter next year when these vaccines supposedly start wearing off. Where is the news on booster shots? Are we going to be at the back of the queue again or will we for once see some proactiveness and foresight from our PM?

 

[AngryAnt]

Not sure about disgusting. Social commentary on a complex issue.

You know tanks literally crushed thousands to death in Tianenmin right?

 

[AngryAnt]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this latest post Anty. How exactly is being an anti viral and a therapeutic mutually exclusive?

BTW Anty some more information on the Ivermectin home kits you had asked about

They aren't but the evidence suggests that ivermectin has no anti-viral properties in the concentrations medicated to humans, but may have had some anti-inflammatory benefits. In fact that was in the study you yourself quoted, but it wouldn't be the first time you post things you haven't actually read.

Would be great if we actually had some information from Uttar Pradesh rather than a guy in the UK sitting in his kitchen.

Anyway, maybe we should make our own Ivermectin thread, no-one else seems interested. Waddya say Dr Lamb?

 

[AngryAnt]

Andrews has consistently said we're following the Doherty plan. We are well and truly on the way to 80% double dose, its just a matter of time until we get there. If anything, I'd be expecting the 80% double-dose date to move forward once we're more secure with vaccine supplies. Martin Foley again today stressed we haven't got confirmation on the Pfizer vaccine delivery at the end of Oct, despite what was being reported elsewhere. Presuming this does arrive, there's no reason not to ask those waiting for a second dose to bring their bookings forward where practical.

What I'm more concerned about is winter next year when these vaccines supposedly start wearing off. Where is the news on booster shots? Are we going to be at the back of the queue again or will we for once see some proactiveness and foresight from our PM?

You'd surely expect Australia to be on top of vaccine supply by then. I'll be due for a booster early in the new year if we assume six months after your last shot - I may not be able to get it then but hopefully people will get them done gradually before the colder months set in again.

 

[AngryAnt]

Interesting take. But his talent is that he doesn't think like the rest of us. Probably could have made the same point without the Beijing insert.

He's being consistent at least - has taken a hardline "vaccination = fascism" approach in his cartoons.



I don't mind having the debate on this - I can appreciate that even a tiny temporary inconvenience that is a vaccine can be considered to be against personal rights for some.

There's that and going full looney tunes though.

 

[Sintiger]

Its sad that this discussion is so polarised that you cannot recognise a legitimate argument about state power over individual objection regardless of whether you believe the objection has merit or not. Its not as if a state would ever abuse their powers right?

Every policy tool is acceptable if you 'follow the science". I think the eugenicists had the same philosophy.

It is not legitimate to compare mandatory vaccines with the massacre of its own population by a totalitarian government.

 

[AngryAnt]

Ben Garrison, the pro-Trump cartoonist would be even more to @lamb22 's taste. Very strongly anti-vax, anti-Fauci, Pro-Trump and just caught Covid! Guess what he's using to treat the condition?

Pro-Trump cartoonist Ben Garrison says he has COVID-19 and is treating it with ivermectin and beet juice

Th cartoonist Ben Garrison is known for his pro-Trump drawings but also touts COVID-19 misinformation. He now says he has a "rough" case of the virus.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Sintiger]

Interesting take. But his talent is that he doesn't think like the rest of us. Probably could have made the same point without the Beijing insert.

Yes. I have no issue with him making the point just in a more appropriate way