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MD Jazz

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Mandatory detention is the only answer IMO. But the VIC authorities won't have the balls, especially if there are supposed cultural sensitivities. Much easier to fine people walking in the open air with out a mask.

Cultural issues and language barriers are certainly no longer valid. It's been 7 months now; anyone who uses that excuse is a *smile* liar. Now it is just down to ignorance, selfishness and being a *smile* *smile*.
Yeh, don't you love the principals comments - he believed there had been a misunderstanding that led to the family sending their child to school. "We're not trying to find a fault in this one, " he said. "the best thing is to see what we can do from now on."

Seriously? Say that to the 000's of businesses that have been shut down for 3 months.

And what about the comments from the VIC commander of testing and community engagement - Jeroen Weimar

Mr Weimar also said the boy's family had misunderstood who needed to remain in isolation after some members of the household were cleared of the virus.
"We have a household with a significant number of family members in the household. They have ... all gone through a positive cycle at some point, it dates back to at least over two weeks now. During a period of time, individual members of that household would have been given a very direct communication about their individual status and about whether they are due to have a day-three test, a day-11 test and at what point they are being released from quarantine.
Victoria’s commander of testing and community engagement Jeroen Weimar.

Victoria’s commander of testing and community engagement Jeroen Weimar.CREDIT:JOE ARMAO

"My assessment of that situation is there were a number of people who were released from their quarantine period, having no longer being infectious, but other members of the household were still defined as close contacts and had not yet tested positive. One of the members of that household did attend school on the Monday and Tuesday, he had his day-11 test and that was positive."

A new contact tracing approach as large families pose challenges

Mr Weimar said the situation had prompted authorities to move towards a whole household case management approach, rather than dealing with cases individually.
"We are progressively moving more towards a case management approach where we group households together and say, how do we manage you as a family unit, or a household unit. That work is starting in some parts of our state and we will accelerate that as we go forward," he said.



Surely a whole household case management approach should have been the only way to go from the start?
 
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Ridley

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Yeh, don't you love the principals comments - he believed there had been a misunderstanding that led to the family sending their child to school. "We're not trying to find a fault in this one, " he said. "the best thing is to see what we can do from now on."

Seriously? Say that to the 000's of businesses that have been shut down for 3 months.

And what about the comments from the VIC commander of testing and community engagement - Jeroen Weimar

Mr Weimar also said the boy's family had misunderstood who needed to remain in isolation after some members of the household were cleared of the virus.
"We have a household with a significant number of family members in the household. They have ... all gone through a positive cycle at some point, it dates back to at least over two weeks now. During a period of time, individual members of that household would have been given a very direct communication about their individual status and about whether they are due to have a day-three test, a day-11 test and at what point they are being released from quarantine.
Victoria’s commander of testing and community engagement Jeroen Weimar.

Victoria’s commander of testing and community engagement Jeroen Weimar.CREDIT:JOE ARMAO

"My assessment of that situation is there were a number of people who were released from their quarantine period, having no longer being infectious, but other members of the household were still defined as close contacts and had not yet tested positive. One of the members of that household did attend school on the Monday and Tuesday, he had his day-11 test and that was positive."

A new contact tracing approach as large families pose challenges

Mr Weimar said the situation had prompted authorities to move towards a whole household case management approach, rather than dealing with cases individually.
"We are progressively moving more towards a case management approach where we group households together and say, how do we manage you as a family unit, or a household unit. That work is starting in some parts of our state and we will accelerate that as we go forward," he said.



Surely a whole household case management approach should have been the only way to go from the start?
Yep just excuse after excuse after excuse. Absolute *smile* the lot of it.
 
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LeeToRainesToRoach

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School principal says an apparent misunderstanding and communication breakdown! *smile* off! Selfish and ignorant arseholes is more like it. What do these people think has been going on the past 7 months??
But in practice it's true. A nation within a nation. Insulated. They might not even read local newspapers or watch the news and rely instead on word of mouth. Anyway I digress.
 

MB78

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1 new case, zero deaths. Excellent result.
 
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DavidSSS

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So Sutton should be drawn and quartered for not reading an email he was CCed into. Give me a break, he would have been getting thousands of emails a day and the arrangements in the quarantine hotels was not something he had any jurisdiction over. This is a joke.

Anyway, looking good today, hopefully some relief after Sunday.

COVID19 7 day ave 23102020.jpg

The numbers:

DateNew Infections7 Day Trailing ave5 Day centred ave14 Day Trailing ave
9 October 20201410.0011.809.86
10 October 20201210.2912.209.57
11 October 20201411.1411.2010.21
12 October 20201110.719.6010.36
13 October 2020510.717.6010.00
14 October 2020610.295.009.43
15 October 202029.143.209.21
16 October 202017.293.008.64
17 October 202025.862.008.07
18 October 202044.432.207.79
19 October 202013.003.006.86
20 October 202032.712.806.71
21 October 202052.576.43
22 October 202012.435.79

Let's all enjoy tomorrow, thinking maybe of zooming to my daughter's house, last 2 Grand Finals we have been at Punt Rd. Not the same but worth a thought.

Go Tiges.

DS
 
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Baloo

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So Sutton should be drawn and quartered for not reading an email he was CCed into.

Yeah, a bit odd. As a rule at work I don't bother with emails I am cc'd on, unless it's from my boss. Standard time management technique is to move emails that you are cc'd on to another place and concentrate on the ones addressed to you. I can imagine during the whole covid crisis that Sutton's mailbox would have been ridiculous to manage
 
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IanG

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Yeah, a bit odd. As a rule at work I don't bother with emails I am cc'd on, unless it's from my boss. Standard time management technique is to move emails that you are cc'd on to another place and concentrate on the ones addressed to you. I can imagine during the whole covid crisis that Sutton's mailbox would have been ridiculous to manage

over 30,000 emails apparently, and yes I agree
 

22nd Man

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Yeah, a bit odd. As a rule at work I don't bother with emails I am cc'd on, unless it's from my boss. Standard time management technique is to move emails that you are cc'd on to another place and concentrate on the ones addressed to you. I can imagine during the whole covid crisis that Sutton's mailbox would have been ridiculous to manage
That's the trouble with modern work places, managimg the inbox is too often the measure of performance.
 

DavidSSS

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Well, I suppose even on Grand Final day we have to deal with COVID.

7 new infections today, not so good but hopefully mainly reflects increased and targetted testing.

COVID19 7 day ave 24102020.jpg

The numbers:

DateNew Infections7 Day Trailing ave5 Day Centred ave14 Day Trailing ave
10 October 20201210.2912.209.57
11 October 20201411.1411.2010.21
12 October 20201110.719.6010.36
13 October 2020510.717.6010.00
14 October 2020610.295.009.43
15 October 202029.143.209.21
16 October 202017.293.008.64
17 October 202025.862.008.07
18 October 202044.432.207.79
19 October 202013.003.006.86
20 October 202032.712.806.71
21 October 202052.573.406.43
22 October 202012.435.79
23 October 202073.295.29

The 7 and 5 day averages are affected more by the larger number today so have gone up, but from a low base now. The 14 day average is still going down so hopefully a few days with lower numbers will see it go down again.

Should see some restrictions come off tomorrow, the Melbourne average is apparently about 5 as the above are the Victoria numbers.

Going to be Zooming my daughter for the Grand Final instead of both of us being at Punt Rd like in 2017 and 2019.

DS
 

bigwow

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Well, I suppose even on Grand Final day we have to deal with COVID.

7 new infections today, not so good but hopefully mainly reflects increased and targetted testing.

View attachment 10967

The numbers:

DateNew Infections7 Day Trailing ave5 Day Centred ave14 Day Trailing ave
10 October 20201210.2912.209.57
11 October 20201411.1411.2010.21
12 October 20201110.719.6010.36
13 October 2020510.717.6010.00
14 October 2020610.295.009.43
15 October 202029.143.209.21
16 October 202017.293.008.64
17 October 202025.862.008.07
18 October 202044.432.207.79
19 October 202013.003.006.86
20 October 202032.712.806.71
21 October 202052.573.406.43
22 October 202012.435.79
23 October 202073.295.29

The 7 and 5 day averages are affected more by the larger number today so have gone up, but from a low base now. The 14 day average is still going down so hopefully a few days with lower numbers will see it go down again.

Should see some restrictions come off tomorrow, the Melbourne average is apparently about 5 as the above are the Victoria numbers.

Going to be Zooming my daughter for the Grand Final instead of both of us being at Punt Rd like in 2017 and 2019.

DS
6 from a known cluster, so probably linked to the school kid from last week. If his parents kept him home, like they should have, maybe it's a 0 today.
 
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MD Jazz

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6 from a known cluster, so probably linked to the school kid from last week. If his parents kept him home, like they should have, maybe it's a 0 today.

Let’s hope they get the contact tracing right on this.
 
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Legends of 2017

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Have I got this right? Andrews said if the 14 day average is under 5, restrictions will be eased. The figure is now below 5 ( I believe), but easing of restrictions is going to be delayed?
 

Althom

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Have I got this right? Andrews said if the 14 day average is under 5, restrictions will be eased. The figure is now below 5 ( I believe), but easing of restrictions is going to be delayed?
Awaiting test results from the northern suburbs outbreak apparently.
 
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mrposhman

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Have I got this right? Andrews said if the 14 day average is under 5, restrictions will be eased. The figure is now below 5 ( I believe), but easing of restrictions is going to be delayed?

There were actually 2 parts to it, under 5 cases per day but also under 5 cases of mystery transmission. Part 1 was achieved, part 2 wasn't. However that hasn't caused the delay, the outbreak where they have done targeted testing are waiting for between 1000-2000 test results to come back, they just want to be sure that this isn't smouldering in the community. Should find out Tuesday.
 
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MD Jazz

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Yeah, a bit odd. As a rule at work I don't bother with emails I am cc'd on, unless it's from my boss. Standard time management technique is to move emails that you are cc'd on to another place and concentrate on the ones addressed to you. I can imagine during the whole covid crisis that Sutton's mailbox would have been ridiculous to manage

Pretty good summary. Sutton will be next to go.
 

DavidSSS

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7 again, most seem to be from one cluster. Shows just how it takes very few people to really stuff this up.

There is simply no excuse for visiting other households at the moment. We were planning to have our daughter over for both her and my birthday soon, but that will have to wait now because everybody, not just 99.9% but everybody, needs to abide by the rules.

Here's how it looks:

COVID19 7 day ave 25102020.jpg

The real worry is the shorter term averages rising, this points to the 14 day average plateauing again or even going up. What a bummer.

The recent numbers:

DateNew Infections7 Day Trailing ave5 Day centred ave14 Day Trailing ave
11 October 20201411.1411.2010.21
12 October 20201110.719.6010.36
13 October 2020510.717.6010.00
14 October 2020610.295.009.43
15 October 202029.143.209.21
16 October 202017.293.008.64
17 October 202025.862.008.07
18 October 202044.432.207.79
19 October 202013.003.006.86
20 October 202032.712.806.71
21 October 202052.573.406.43
22 October 202012.434.605.79
23 October 202073.295.29
24 October 202074.004.93

We're almost there but I just don't know how we get the message across that no indoor visiting is the only way to get it down to the next level.

Active cases under 100 as of yesterday so that's a good sign. Less active cases means less transmission as long as we find them all.

DS
 
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