no way,ottens is a lying money hungry dog.
we drafted him,nurtured him,and helped turn him into an all australian CHF.
he was quite happy to keep playing for us after the 2004 season,i even remember him being interviewed not long after the last game of that season and he said he was happy to stay at richmond.
he even admitted he was being paid on potential.
terry and co. then went to him and asked him to take a pay cut,because he wasn`t performing up to what his pay packet was,roughly $500,000 a season, and all of a sudden he wanted to leave because he wasn`t enjoying his footy :

that`s why terry came out and said ottens hadn`t mentioned leaving until the issue of money came up.
he deserted a sinking ship and lied about it.
ottens is a dog!
sorry i had to get that off my chest.
anyway...
i believe lids has got more honour than ottens,not that it would be hard.
but he is going to be a 250+ game player for us,a regular finalist and hopefully a premiership player.
people forget he was coming second in our carlton draught player of the year award last season before he broke his hand and missed 6 weeks.
Brett Deledio will be a Richmond legend by the time he retires.