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Courage or clever - what's the better option?

the claw said:
just on your brother inlaw. i bet his action was a non thinking act instinctive if you like. i was with 4 mates one night in hobart. we had a car go by with a couple of blokes in it and they yelled out abuse. of course we yelled back. they pulled up around the corner and got out of the car with jimmy bars. one of my mates just went for them as soon as he went i went. my other mates who probably had a bit of time to think about it hung back on the corner. without preamble my mate and i promptly ended up in hospital. was it courage stupidity or instinct or all three.

now that im older i think i would probably choose discretion as the better to valour but im sure i would not leave my mate in the lurch.
as far as im concerned pettifer is an embarrasment he leaves his team mates in the lurch.
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This is the $64 million question on life Claw. Your mate did the wrong thing by charging straight in. But given he did then the old rule applies "one in, all in".

What would have happened if the other 3 have backed you and your mate up? Would you have scared the others off(5 unarmed v 2 armed) or won the fight?
 
pharace said:
Is courage a natural thing or is courage developed through commitment to a cause? The more cuases the more courage? Playing footy teaches you the difference to this I think. Footy teaches courage to those not a natural fit.
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Quality post pharace. Really insightful. :thumbsup

'Commitment to a cause' is exactly what courage is.

Courage comes to the fore when you put a greater good ahead of your own personal safety without a second thought.

It's crucial for any footballer not to take their eye off the ball and crash into the pack because in a team sport to do otherwise is cancer. Doubt is the enemy.

Aside from a few that come straight to the top of my head, that commitment has evidently been missing in many players at Richmond for some time. Not too much bleeding for the jumper goes on and some are seemingly just there to play football without the 'commitment to a cause' that's required for ultimate success.

This is a large reason I think Kayne comes in for more criticism than most and although I agree he has improved slightly the past couple of seasons, there's plenty more he could improve. Tambling too has shirked on occasion. Injured or not it's not a good look.
Too many guy's still won't gut run or do the 1%s. That too is courage.

I thought Wallace might change this culture when he came to Tigerland and I think he's trying to instill this blind desire & commitment across the team but he's up against it.

The appointment of Foley and Newman to the vcs is a good move in the right direction to address some of what's been missing.
 
pharace said:
Petts has courage, and it is evolving, but it will never be the same as anyone elses. If it is not enough courage for you, then cast the stone if you must, but you haven't walked in his shoes and probably have never had a collision with an AFL footballer in your life. It is different to the courage needed to save someone in the surf, have a baby or go to war - it is unique too, though not always as critical, just as necessary in its moment. And until we seperate each act and not compare we will be less.
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Ah Pharace ..the wisdom of Solomon (or the Solomons) as the case may be!
 
the claw said:
just on your brother inlaw. i bet his action was a non thinking act instinctive if you like. i was with 4 mates one night in hobart. we had a car go by with a couple of blokes in it and they yelled out abuse. of course we yelled back. they pulled up around the corner and got out of the car with jimmy bars. one of my mates just went for them as soon as he went i went. my other mates who probably had a bit of time to think about it hung back on the corner. without preamble my mate and i promptly ended up in hospital. was it courage stupidity or instinct or all three.

now that im older i think i would probably choose discretion as the better to valour but im sure i would not leave my mate in the lurch.
as far as im concerned pettifer is an embarrasment he leaves his team mates in the lurch.
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I hope the three mates that hung back are now "ex" mates.
If you see a mate in a blue it should be instinctive to help out no matter what.
I'm not a tough person by any means but I can look anyone in the eye and say I'd back them to the hilt if the occasion arose.
 
premiers08 said:
I hope the three mates that hung back are now "ex" mates.
If you see a mate in a blue it should be instinctive to help out no matter what.
I'm not a tough person by any means but I can look anyone in the eye and say I'd back them to the hilt if the occasion arose.
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That's what mates are for isn't it. Otherwise you might as well be an aquaintance
 
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