Cricket

[MD Jazz]

plenty were raving about the selectors after they picked the 2 Marsh's, Bancroft and Paine for the Ashes.
Paine has been a good selection.
Bancroft was ok before the swing supplement saga.
M. Marsh is the all-rounder who doesnt bowl. (74 overs in 7 tests for 4 wickets at 75.)
S. Marsh has been a 35yo failure.

As a side note Maxwell played the last test before the Australian summer started, averaged over 50 in the shield but wasnt rated in the top 9 batsmen in the country by the end of the summer. not sure how that works.

Yeh, I was wrong about s marsh, although no one has made runs . If Mitch can’t bowl he cannot be picked as a bat.

I’m a maxwell fan, he should be playing now, hopefully he will replace a marsh.
Sad state of affairs.

 

[DjJazzyPete]

Gee just heard from a SAF mate who lives in Australia that there will be no free to air cricket in Australia apart from Big Bash . As he told me that ch 9 has dumped cricket over the ball Tampering scandal and are going to be showing the Australian Open Tennis instead ..wow if this this true this is so sad .

 

[tigertim]

Gee just heard from a SAF mate who lives in Australia that there will be no free to air cricket in Australia apart from Big Bash . As he told me that ch 9 has dumped cricket over the ball Tampering scandal and are going to be showing the Australian Open Tennis instead ..wow if this this true this is so sad .

Don’t think that’s true. Yes ch9 have got the Aus Open tennis from 2020 but they claim they’ll still bid for the cricket. If they don’t 10 or 7 will.

 

[tigertim]

plenty were raving about the selectors after they picked the 2 Marsh's, Bancroft and Paine for the Ashes.
Paine has been a good selection.
Bancroft was ok before the swing supplement saga.
M. Marsh is the all-rounder who doesnt bowl. (74 overs in 7 tests for 4 wickets at 75.)
S. Marsh has been a 35yo failure.

As a side note Maxwell played the last test before the Australian summer started, averaged over 50 in the shield but wasnt rated in the top 9 batsmen in the country by the end of the summer. not sure how that works.

Yep, I said at the time those selections weren’t about the Ashes but how they’d fare long term and O/S.

Worked out well....

 

[tigerman]

Yeh, I was wrong about s marsh, although no one has made runs . If Mitch can’t bowl he cannot be picked as a bat.

I’m a maxwell fan, he should be playing now, hopefully he will replace a marsh.
Sad state of affairs.

Things might change for Maxwell now that Smith and Lehmann have gone, although if Langer gets the coaching gig S Marsh will probably survive.

 

[lukeanddad]

Things might change for Maxwell now that Smith and Lehmann have gone, although if Langer gets the coaching gig S Marsh will probably survive.

Ironic in a way... maxwell may go from Dean Jones to Steven Bradbury and be part of the rebirth. I hope you’re wrong about marsh’s future. One thing that will change though is the nsw bias. This has surely been a factor in the current debacle.

 

[toby64]

An appropriate way for Lehmann's tenure to end, with another horrible batting collapse on foreign soil.

As soon as we move away from our flat decks at home, and as soon as the ball moves slightly off the straight, our batsmen are all at sea. Been this way for many years.

 

[easy_tiger]

Im not really a cricket fan. Some tours hold my attention on the wireless. So im not really qualified to proselytize.

BUT. If a bloke goes the full blown tears and unconditional, on-the-chin contrition,

doesnt that sort of morally preclude them going straight from the teary presser to the lawyer's office to contest bans and that?

If what I understand is happening (Warner et. al. contesting bans, have I got this right? I hope not), its worse than Essendon IMO. The Bombers never took anything on the chin.

A fleetingly contrite *smile* is surely the worst kind of *smile*?

I know spin is a fact of modern society, but surely theres limits? unconditionally has to remain unconditional if the good folk are to stand any chance of making sense of the world?

We cant tolerate feigning taking it on the chin, and blowing it out the arse can we? I know crocodiles have been shedding tears since they lumbered off The Ark, but little cynical sobs must be held as

a modern taboo or sincerity is dead

Isnt it?

 

[Baloo]

I don't mind them challenging the length of their bans. It's their right.

Not close to worse than essendon. They refused to admit they did wrong. Much worse.

These guys have admitted it but are now trying to get a lesser punishment for doing what they did. Considering these are probably the harshest penalties given for what they did, challenging them is fine.

 

[easy_tiger]

I don't mind them challenging the length of their bans. It's their right.

Not close to worse than essendon. They refused to admit they did wrong. Much worse.

These guys have admitted it but are now trying to get a lesser punishment for doing what they did. Considering these are probably the harshest penalties given for what they did, challenging them is fine.

yeah its certainly not a hill I'll die on.

Just thought wiping away tears and sobbing 'I accept full responsibility, I've let down everybody etc etc'

meant the lawyers wouldnt get a commission.

If they were being honest, wouldnt they have cried the tears-of-deep-regret and gone 'sure, ive let everybody down etc, but it was only a square inch of 240 grit'?

 

[MD Jazz]

yeah its certainly not a hill I'll die on.

Just thought wiping away tears and sobbing 'I accept full responsibility, I've let down everybody etc etc'

meant the lawyers wouldnt get a commission.

If they were being honest, wouldnt they have cried the tears-of-deep-regret and gone 'sure, ive let everybody down etc, but it was only a square inch of 240 grit'?

They accepted responsibility. They showed remorse.

Nothing wrong with appealing the length of the bans considering how far removed from the ICC penalties they were.

 

[easy_tiger]

They accepted responsibility. They showed remorse.

Nothing wrong with appealing the length of the bans considering how far removed from the ICC penalties they were.

fair enough. I suppose the tears weren't commensurate with the crime either? That's probably what threw me.

 

[poppa x]

Drain the swamp Marsh.

 

[IanG]

Well the argument is moot as far as Smith is concerned. He won't be challenging the sanction:

https://***********/i/web/status/981407491752853504

 

[tigerman]

Also Smith and Bancroft's 9 months suspensions takes them up to December, they would not be able to play shield cricket before next summers tests. They would need to play shield cricket to be considered for test matches. In effect the ban on playing tests would be longer than 9 months.

 

[Nico]

They accepted responsibility. They showed remorse.

Nothing wrong with appealing the length of the bans considering how far removed from the ICC penalties they were.

The ICC, sorry the BCCI, are weak as water in regard to the penalties they hand down. The CA actually banned the 3 for bringing the game into disrepute, not for ball tampering.

I think the bans should remain in place in regard to international cricket, but halve them for domestic cricket.

Bottom line, regardless of how sorry they are, and how many tears they shed, they cheated.

 

[craig]

I did like Warne's bunny, daryll cullinan's retort to warneys attempt to get in his head.
Warne:
“I went on and on with it as I normally do, like a bit of a drip on the forehead and I kept going. After a few overs I said, ‘Daryll, don’t you dare miss me this opportunity. I want to get you out again’.
“I said, ‘I’ve been waiting four years for this’. He turned around to me and said, ‘It looks like you’ve spent it eating too’ and I said, ‘Not bad from you, Daryll. Not bad. Pretty good’.”
;D

:hihi

 

[MD Jazz]

fair enough. I suppose the tears weren't commensurate with the crime either? That's probably what threw me.

How would anyone cope in that situation? Not sure how the tears should determine ability to appeal.
All moot as far as smith goes anyway.

 

[easy_tiger]

How would anyone cope in that situation?

I reckon I'd blubber like a baby if it was 80 grit, and probably stare down the camera stony faced if it was 240 grit :don't know

 

[IanG]

Bancroft will not appeal either.