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mb64 said:
and then hauritz gets the breakthru. didnt you bag hussey before game 1. you should all the team.
nah just kidding. i thought the same thing, doherty and hastings out after they both perform.
the selectors sure do make some interesting decisions. normally involving keeping guys not performing in the team, or dropping guys who do do well.
I think there is alot going wrong with Australian cricket at present.
Fundamentally, the ACB does not have a clear and logical strategy to deal with the demands of Test, 1-Day & T20 cricket.
A great example ius this current tour by England.
Note, the focus of this tour is an Ashes Test series, that's 5 day matches.
England have already arrived here, have some warm-up time, then they play 3 x 4-Day games against WA, SA & Aust A, before having another 5 days warm up for the First Test.
England will then play their 5 Tests combined with other 4 day games before even looking at 1-Day or T20 matches.
This is a thorough preparation with a focus on a Test series.
In comparison, the Australian team are playing a combination of 1-Day & T20 games with Sri Lanka as their preparation for the 1st Test.
How ludicrous is that?
Anyone knows that Test matches & 1-Dayers/T20 are completely different forms of cricket.
And you can't blame the nature of modern day cricket because the English have prepared a balanced itiniery tour of Australia.
The foot should clearly land up James Sutherland's arse.
I warned all on PRE about him a couple of years ago.
There's a whole pack of reasons why we aren't on top:
1. The rigidity of the Aust player contract system.
2. Poor preparation of tour itinieries.
And also, the other key countries have caught up.
We led the key cricketing nations in the late 1980s with our cricket development and cricket institutes.
The other countries have gone past us now.
No better example was 2 English tours ago when the English were practising to a bowling machine that emulated Shane Warne's spin.
Australia didn't have the same quality bowling equipment.
Our machines couldn't emulate England's reverse swing.
Sport is like war. Victory goes to the best resourced & prepared.
With the ACB the way that it is, we will fall further behind.
Fortunately this tour is in Australia. If it was in England we'd be annihilated.
Fundamentally, the ACB does not have a clear and logical strategy to deal with the demands of Test, 1-Day & T20 cricket.
A great example ius this current tour by England.
Note, the focus of this tour is an Ashes Test series, that's 5 day matches.
England have already arrived here, have some warm-up time, then they play 3 x 4-Day games against WA, SA & Aust A, before having another 5 days warm up for the First Test.
England will then play their 5 Tests combined with other 4 day games before even looking at 1-Day or T20 matches.
This is a thorough preparation with a focus on a Test series.
In comparison, the Australian team are playing a combination of 1-Day & T20 games with Sri Lanka as their preparation for the 1st Test.
How ludicrous is that?
Anyone knows that Test matches & 1-Dayers/T20 are completely different forms of cricket.
And you can't blame the nature of modern day cricket because the English have prepared a balanced itiniery tour of Australia.
The foot should clearly land up James Sutherland's arse.
I warned all on PRE about him a couple of years ago.
There's a whole pack of reasons why we aren't on top:
1. The rigidity of the Aust player contract system.
2. Poor preparation of tour itinieries.
And also, the other key countries have caught up.
We led the key cricketing nations in the late 1980s with our cricket development and cricket institutes.
The other countries have gone past us now.
No better example was 2 English tours ago when the English were practising to a bowling machine that emulated Shane Warne's spin.
Australia didn't have the same quality bowling equipment.
Our machines couldn't emulate England's reverse swing.
Sport is like war. Victory goes to the best resourced & prepared.
With the ACB the way that it is, we will fall further behind.
Fortunately this tour is in Australia. If it was in England we'd be annihilated.
W.A in trouble early against the poms at 2 for none, have steadied and are now 3 for 82. North the third wicket lost for 19. Anderson 0/11 off 10 overs and Broad 3/23 off 13.
I'd like to hear the reasoning from the selectors for Doh's omission, seems very dumb to me. If they think we still have enough depth to do the player rotation gamut then they are mistaken. Hopefully they are playing off the two finger spinners with a mind towards the world cup, hopefully they will come to realise Nathan is a hack soon...very soon.
The Aussies need a lot of confidence right now, why would you bench a bloke who was practically our only shining light on debut in the last game, and pretty much extinguish some of the confidence he got out of it. Crazy.
Agree with everything except the bowling machine bit. To a bowling machine using the 'jugs' training ball, their is no difference between reverse or standard swing, its just swing. Was it a special bowling machine they were using for the spin? Pretty sure most machines can replicate drift and spin, and flippers and arm balls.
I'd like to hear the reasoning from the selectors for Doh's omission, seems very dumb to me. If they think we still have enough depth to do the player rotation gamut then they are mistaken. Hopefully they are playing off the two finger spinners with a mind towards the world cup, hopefully they will come to realise Nathan is a hack soon...very soon.
The Aussies need a lot of confidence right now, why would you bench a bloke who was practically our only shining light on debut in the last game, and pretty much extinguish some of the confidence he got out of it. Crazy.
Phantom said:
Agree with everything except the bowling machine bit. To a bowling machine using the 'jugs' training ball, their is no difference between reverse or standard swing, its just swing. Was it a special bowling machine they were using for the spin? Pretty sure most machines can replicate drift and spin, and flippers and arm balls.
poppa x said:
If we were in England we'd be thrashed by more.
Just as a rider on my previous thread,
When we went to England in May 2009, we arrived off the plane and prepared for an Ashes series by playing a T20 World Cup. We then rushed through 2 x 4 day games in less than 10 days as full preparation for that 1st Test in Cardiff.
That's the difference. And that's why we're behind the 8-ball.
Selection is part of it.
But it's part of a greater calamity.
snaps truly said:
Yes it was a very special bowling machine.
Those who watched that 2005 series in 'Wee" hours would have seen the story and seen that bowling machine in all of its glory.
I still haven't seen that bowling machine in Australia.
And it didn't use 'jugs', it used cricket balls, and used the seam too.
It's the level of preparation that they now have, that we don't.
I cannot watch the cricket ... limited to CricInfo. Just saw this:
Watson to Sangakkara, no run, hilarious scenes! Sangakkara inside edged the attempted cut to Haddin on the bounce, Tharanga set off for the single, Sangakkara sent him back, both batsmen were at one end. Haddin lobbed the ball high and slowly to the bowler's end, it sailed over Watson's head at the stumps and was collected by Clarke behind the bowler. Tharanga was still yards and yards out. Clarke could have ambled to the stumps and taken off the bails. Instead he chose to throw, and Watson was standing right in front of his stumps. The ball hit Watson instead of the stumps and Tharanga gets an unbelievable let off
Are we tanking for draft picks? Are we on the take? Or have we just completely lost it?
Watson to Sangakkara, no run, hilarious scenes! Sangakkara inside edged the attempted cut to Haddin on the bounce, Tharanga set off for the single, Sangakkara sent him back, both batsmen were at one end. Haddin lobbed the ball high and slowly to the bowler's end, it sailed over Watson's head at the stumps and was collected by Clarke behind the bowler. Tharanga was still yards and yards out. Clarke could have ambled to the stumps and taken off the bails. Instead he chose to throw, and Watson was standing right in front of his stumps. The ball hit Watson instead of the stumps and Tharanga gets an unbelievable let off
Are we tanking for draft picks? Are we on the take? Or have we just completely lost it?
Almost fell off me chair when i heard Xav was dropped for Hauritz.
The nepotism is BS i am over it, the only reason id watch this current Aussie side would be to see Smith Doherty, Paine, etc not the same ol same olds.
Ponting is a mate of Hauritzs and it shows, Ponting annointed him and as such he wont be dropped, and im tipping one M North will play every Test in the Ashes regardless (failed gainst the Poms today eeking out 19 from 70-80 balls
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The Aussie fast men are *smile* bowlers hows about appointing the greatest line and length bowler in ages to be a bowling mentor/coach in one G McGrath .... that said his domestic situation might not allow for it or what about Terry Alderman the best swing bowler in decades for Australia.
*smile* me .................. bring on next footy season gonna be a long summer of cricket with this crap.
The nepotism is BS i am over it, the only reason id watch this current Aussie side would be to see Smith Doherty, Paine, etc not the same ol same olds.
Ponting is a mate of Hauritzs and it shows, Ponting annointed him and as such he wont be dropped, and im tipping one M North will play every Test in the Ashes regardless (failed gainst the Poms today eeking out 19 from 70-80 balls
.The Aussie fast men are *smile* bowlers hows about appointing the greatest line and length bowler in ages to be a bowling mentor/coach in one G McGrath .... that said his domestic situation might not allow for it or what about Terry Alderman the best swing bowler in decades for Australia.
*smile* me .................. bring on next footy season gonna be a long summer of cricket with this crap.
Problem with Hauritz, North and Hussey are not only are they either has beens or never weres but they are also boring to watch as well (so is Katich but at least he has some form on his side). I shudder to think what the attendences would be like this year if it weren't for the ashes. Still you can't blame them for making out like bandits when they are idotically and unfairly reselected. As Tim Watson once said a fish first rots at the head, it's our incompetent selectors that are the problem. Nothing of consequence will change so long as Hilditch and his follow hacks call the shots.
Phantom said:
You make some decent points but that machine must have been schiezenhausen because Warney still killed em that tour - didn't he take 40 odd wickets (and unfortunately dropped "that" catch)
The people who say we are going to get thrashed need to sober up.
The English are not that good. In fact, they themselves are pretty damned ordinary. Keep in mind this is the 4th ranked test team vs the 5th.
What bowling do they have to knock us over. Mickey Arthur has already said that Swann is not going to be a factor out here, and he is a good judge of cricketers. Finn is their big hope, and he looked very pedestrian against WA yesterday.
Harden up princesses. People are saying our preperation for the 1st test is poor. Well our players are going to get 2 shield games before that match if the ACB wants them to sharpen up. The English are going to be stuck playing another two games against state sides (after WA) who will do them no favours.
I think we will win this Ashes series myself. Sure, we need to ensure that a series win doesn't just paper over the cracks in our current team and our selectors might need a serious overhaul, but come on, lets be a little positive.
The English are not that good. In fact, they themselves are pretty damned ordinary. Keep in mind this is the 4th ranked test team vs the 5th.
What bowling do they have to knock us over. Mickey Arthur has already said that Swann is not going to be a factor out here, and he is a good judge of cricketers. Finn is their big hope, and he looked very pedestrian against WA yesterday.
Harden up princesses. People are saying our preperation for the 1st test is poor. Well our players are going to get 2 shield games before that match if the ACB wants them to sharpen up. The English are going to be stuck playing another two games against state sides (after WA) who will do them no favours.
I think we will win this Ashes series myself. Sure, we need to ensure that a series win doesn't just paper over the cracks in our current team and our selectors might need a serious overhaul, but come on, lets be a little positive.