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mb64 said:
Hughes has already been found out with his poor technique.
Hughes does come from NSW MB.The Doors always open for Hughes and any New South Welshman who is capable of holding a bat or can roll his arm over.
 
CptJonno2Madcow2005 said:
Hughes does come from NSW MB.The Doors always open for Hughes and any New South Welshman who is capable of holding a bat or can roll his arm over.
True Skipper
 
NSW has nothing to do with it. I'm not even from there. Stop being pathetic and provincial.

mb64 said:
Yes,yes,yes & you haven't.

Well what a judge you are. :clap

Has a better eye, footwork & temperament than most. Same reason Chanderpaul was the Windies best batsmen after Lara despite facing sqare leg in his stance. Same reason Gooch was gun despite that horrible backlift. Both were exposed early in their careers and overcame it. Even Wessells came back for South Africa and did alright, still tucked up on leg stump.
 
Joe Lynn Turnip said:
NSW has nothing to do with it. I'm not even from there. Stop being pathetic and provincial.
NSW has everything to do with it.He,ll get another chance at some stage despite his shortcommings,Unlike those from other states.
 
Joe Lynn Turnip said:
Rubbish. Hughes is a gun. You don't score twin hundreds in your second ever test against the best pace attack in the world if you're not. His technique's no worse than the likes of Gooch & Langer and it's better than Wessell's was...or Chanderpaul's for that matter (though he never opened). Perceived short ball problem is over-stated and easily fixed. Mentally stronger than Bevan who let all the same hype about short pitched bowling get to him.

Watson is not a long term solution as an opener. You need someone who converts more fifties to hundreds...not someone who just belts a quick 51's & 36's all the time. Lacks the long term concentration at Test Level to score BIG 100's and get's bowled and trapped LBW more often than an opener should be. Add all that to the fact that he's expected to bowl more than just few overs and his luck will run out eventually.

Hughes aint no gun. Not while he has issues that he has. Plenty of players have come onto the international scene with a bang before the extra focus from other sides beings them undone. Plenty.

For a start. not sure why you bring up the guys you have. Like Hughes they mostly have an unorthodox backlift. Chanderpaul aside that doesnt give them an unortodox technique. Far from it. Gooch was in perfect position at delivery whilst Chanderpaul is also very well balanced at the point of delivery. Hughes' big movement back & to leg means he isnt. Langer who you also mention was very correct.

As for Hughes efforts against SA, they tried to get him edging driving outside off believing that because of his back foot's movement to leg he would be suspectible there. That area is actually his strength which is why he got runs. Its been proven time & again including in the shield this year (114 runs at 22) that bowling short to his body brings him unstuck. Maybe he can fix it maybe not. But to label him a gun is laughable.

On Watson not being an opener, Navy can see why your post makes sense. Not.

- He has over 1300 runs at better than 51 since his move to open.
- Has been the countries top run scorer in that time.
- Had only scored one 50 in his previous 13 test innings down the order before being brought back in his new role.
- His bowling has also improved in this time so its had no effect there.

Not had for someone with no concentration & that gets bowled & LBW more than he should.

Watson has 3 times the technique Hughes has & time will continue to show Watson to be the far better batsman.
 
Hughes for an opening batsman play a lot of shots and long way away from his body and is reaching for them, also hits a lot in the air which will subsquent count his downfall more than get him a lot of runs.
Watson in comparsion does play straight and play in a straight V a lot, which makes him able to bat in any position and by being correct means his shortcomings can be overcome compared to Hughes.
 
mk33 said:
Hughes for an opening batsman play a lot of shots and long way away from his body and is reaching for them, also hits a lot in the air which will subsquent count his downfall more than get him a lot of runs.
Watson in comparsion does play straight and play in a straight V a lot, which makes him able to bat in any position and by being correct means his shortcomings can be overcome compared to Hughes.
Exactly
 
Tiger74 said:
and chucked a sookie sookie la la when told, and refused to train :rofl
Pathetic by Johnson if true. Does he think he has a right to play for his country and should be gifted games?
 
Joe Lynn Turnip said:
Rubbish. Hughes is a gun. You don't score twin hundreds in your second ever test against the best pace attack in the world if you're not. His technique's no worse than the likes of Gooch & Langer and it's better than Wessell's was...or Chanderpaul's for that matter (though he never opened). Perceived short ball problem is over-stated and easily fixed. Mentally stronger than Bevan who let all the same hype about short pitched bowling get to him.

Watson is not a long term solution as an opener. You need someone who converts more fifties to hundreds...not someone who just belts a quick 51's & 36's all the time. Lacks the long term concentration at Test Level to score BIG 100's and get's bowled and trapped LBW more often than an opener should be. Add all that to the fact that he's expected to bowl more than just few overs and his luck will run out eventually.

Spot on. Hughes treatment has been shabby to say the least, especially when compared to the likes of protected species like North and Hussey. I mean what's Hughes average in test cricket, what was his last test score, what's his conversion rate of fifties to hundreds? And how does that all compare with Watson? When you have a prodigious young talent like that you persist with it, especially when you have an otherwise largely decrepit and ageing batting line up. I guess he'll have to wait until he is 30 which has become the norm in Australian cricket (especially now that Hussey is probably in for life having scored all those runs on that block on concrete on the Gabba). Have nothing against Watson, he should be in the side somewhere down the order, but not persisting with a player like Hughes is one of the reasons Dad's army is going to get wholloped this summer. And feeling as I do about Hilditch and his fellow idiot selectors I can't say I really care.
 
Joe Lynn Turnip said:
NSW has nothing to do with it. I'm not even from there. Stop being pathetic and provincial.

I agree with you JLT.

Victorians have had a chip on their shoulder about National cricket selection ever since Dean Jones got given the flick. Can you imagine feeling hard done by over that? :hihi

I'll admit I think Hodge was unlucky not to have had the chance at a top flight career.
 
Streak said:
I agree with you JLT.

Victorians have had a chip on their shoulder about National cricket selection ever since Dean Jones got given the flick. Can you imagine feeling hard done by over that? :hihi

I'll admit I think Hodge was unlucky not to have had the chance at a top flight career.

Everyone from every state has a chip on their shoulder when it comes to selections. JLT is case in point.