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Punxsutawney Phil said:
I believe, unfortunately for Australia's test prospects, Johnson has been greatly overrated by our selectors. perhaps getting the tick of approval from the great DK early on is still ringing in the selectors' ears.

He is a bowler who, even when his action was better, rarely swung the ball in the air. He got a lot of his wickets from blokes chasing wide deliveries which were nicked into the cordon. Batsmen the world over have cottoned onto this. They leave his wide stuff. They make him bowl to them. When he gets too straight, he is easy pickings. And as we know, his radar is all over the place. I don't even think he knows where the next ball is going to be bowled.
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Agree.

I expect him to be carved up.
 
Navy Days said:
Some fair points Phil.

Whilst never a big mover of the ball as you say, & because of his action he'll also never be able to bring the ball back into the RH batsman, at his best Johnson did have the ability to leave the right hander in the air. Combined with his pace this was enough to cause problems.
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Saw a bit of footage of the Sth African tour in early 09 on Inside Cricket. Looked like a completely different bowler. Release was a bit higher which gave him good bounce and at 150km was very dangerous. Was also making runs for fun.

Think the selectors are praying he can return to that.
 
IrockZ said:
Saw a bit of footage of the Sth African tour in early 09 on Inside Cricket. Looked like a completely different bowler. Release was a bit higher which gave him good bounce and at 150km was very dangerous. Was also making runs for fun.

Think the selectors are praying he can return to that.
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Good point, getting the arm higher allows him to get more bounce rather than the flat trajectory he has now, making his short stuff more difficult to deal with. I reckon before South Africa he was this guy with all this potential, then South Africa was when it all came together and unfortunately it has all been downhill since then...which is almost 2 years ago.
 
Navy Days said:
Bowlers are rightly treated differently to batsmen. They are completely different crafts with vastly different variables.

Surely youve seen enough cricket for navy not to have to explain it to you.

Also could you point out where navy said Siddle should be dropped. Cheers.
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1: Navy has never worried before when it comes to him explaining things to all and sundry.
2: uuum, the bit where you wrote "Siddle is the correct choice to go".
 
I reckon in the pre-Warne days, Australia had absolutely no qualms at all about going in to a Test with four quicks and no spinners. If there was no spinner amongst the best four bowlers available then so be it (except when the conditions absolutely dictated like Sydney and the subcontinent).

I think since we had Warne, we've gone back to the traditional English thinking that no matter what, you had to have at least one specialist spinner.
 
23.21.159 said:
I think since we had Warne, we've gone back to the traditional English thinking that no matter what, you had to have at least one specialist spinner.
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I agree with that thinking unless you have 4 West Indian ala 1980s quicks. Even then they had other blokes who could break it up a bit if needed.
 
tigertim said:
1: Navy has never worried before when it comes to him explaining things to all and sundry.
2: uuum, the bit where you wrote "Siddle is the correct choice to go".
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1: It is a forum after all.

2: ummmm, incorrect (again).
Navy Days said:
IF they are going to take the punt on him (Johnson) Siddle is the correct choice to go.
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If they decide to play a spinner Navy has said it should come down to a decision between Siddle & Johnson. Never has navy said Johnson should be played ahead of him. Comprehension issues much.
 
Navy Days said:
1: It is a forum after all.

2: ummmm, incorrect (again). If they decide to play a spinner Navy has said it should come down to a decision between Siddle & Johnson. Never has navy said Johnson should be played ahead of him. Comprehension issues much.
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1: It is a forum indeed and we love to hear your opinions Navy.

2: If I'm incorrect then so be it...speaking of always being incorrect who's your tip for the 3rd test old boy?
 
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