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Cricket
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Streak said:
The warning signs are on the wall for the future of cricket in Australia Streaker and I am not just referring to current talent stocks.
We might be mediocre for longer than 24 years..
The whole problem we have currently with Ponting and Clarke is the traditional role of the Captain and the Vice Captain
What can we do? Drop the Captain, Drop the Vice Captain. No this is not possible as we place such importance on these roles and we usually select the best player for these position. These jobs are positions for life, you hand them on when you retire.
So we have a situation where the No 3 and No 4 are clearly out of form for whatever reason. They should be rested/sent back to the two's/sent on holidays whatever. But we cant or wont do this, as they are the captain and the vice captain
Rick Charlseworth words about the values of these positions, just makes more and more sense.
What can we do? Drop the Captain, Drop the Vice Captain. No this is not possible as we place such importance on these roles and we usually select the best player for these position. These jobs are positions for life, you hand them on when you retire.
So we have a situation where the No 3 and No 4 are clearly out of form for whatever reason. They should be rested/sent back to the two's/sent on holidays whatever. But we cant or wont do this, as they are the captain and the vice captain
Rick Charlseworth words about the values of these positions, just makes more and more sense.
Tigers of Old said:
Too negative ToO.
Australian cricket has very good talent identification schemes and development structures in place, and a premier domestic competition. We might be down for 5-6 years, but we will rebound more quickly.
The English suffered from the lack of the above, especially their domestic comp which in cricket terms was shambolic. Instead of playing the longer version of the game properley, they bastardised it, creating unrealistic tactics and spawing generation after generation of cricketers who had no intrinsic knowledge of how to play a 5 day game when they stepped up to Test level.
Streak said:
I support individuals in the team but not the selectors, captain or vice captain when they are clearly abrogating their responsibilities to the team and the game itself in Australia and its future. If it takes a loss in the Ashes at home to bring home a few home truths and force change so be it.
If the team was crap but they were bringing through good young talent and giving them a reasonable go in the team then I would support them wholeheartedly, but they aren't. For too long Ponting has had too large a say in selection of his favourites, and he and the selectors have been for too long in love with the idea that they should select players in their late 20s in the belief that they will be another Hussey or Gilchrist. They were ones out of the box as North proved, but it has taken far too long for this to sink in. As for Clarke he's just a selfish *smile* that pretty clearly does not have the support of other key players.
Streak said:
Too negative? Perhaps Streaker but I don't see a rosy future for this team but more pressingly cricket in this country.
Grim or not, I honestly don't think our demise this time is quite as simple as 'it's our turn'.
A flagging interest from young people in cricket in favour of other sports and interests to go with a changing face of the population, will not help early talent identification one iota.
Cricket like football was once a national pastime where any youngster with an ounce of ability or otherwise was donning the zinc on summer weekends without a second thought. For a country with a small population by comparison to begin with this is a necessity in our quest to reach/stay at the top.
Does that cultural mindset still ring true? Not IMO.
The cricketing pool is getting smaller to choose from and we're starting to see the ramifications of that.
Once not too long ago there was an embarrassment of riches, now the cupboard looks bare.
Is it just a cycle? Doubt it.
I like many who post in this thread used to be a cricket tragic. Sad to say but these days (for many reasons as indicated in this thread) my interest is minimal by comparison.
Flagging crowds and TV ratings whilst the Aussies are down will not help development at the junior level one bit.
I can only speak for myself but having spent many weekends under the sun as a jnr cricketer, I sure wouldn't push my son in that direction if he showed an ounce of talent re hand/eye coordination.
So yeah one day we might rise again but my guess it'll be at a time when the sport has a much lower profile than it does now.
Commercial media is a fickle industry and if for example Ch9 dumps cricket from it's coverage it won't take long for the game to end up on the backwater of an increasingly competitive sport market.
So I reckon the current form of this team is the least of it's worries, cricket IMO is in serious trouble.
mld said:
Agree. They are so not interseted they re-iterate it every test just to make sure we know.
Tigers of Old said:
Disagree entriely. Go down to most clubs with junior programs, cricketers coming out of their ears. I' part of a club in Melbourne and the biggest issue we have is making sure everyone gets a game. Milo cricket is a smash and a great way to introduce kids to the game. They all love 20/20, the biggest issue is getting them and keeping them interested in test cricket in the same way.
Cricket will still be attractive (if not more so) now that the earning potential has increased for a bigger base of players. Just don't see how it is in serious trouble at all. Onfield - yes, we are not looking too flash, but the game itself will continue to grow and prosper IMO.
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Apart from One ball Harris has bowled Crap.
Hilly Has one ball and one ball only.Shield level Bowler only.
Hilly Has one ball and one ball only.Shield level Bowler only.
Big Cat Lover said:
How is that different that those that continue to put down RFC players when there is a thread about them ?
"Dud" "Dumb Footballer" etc over and over.
By comparison those you claim are not interested in cricket in this thread have all expressed their dissapoint at losing passion for the game they once loved.
At the risk of being called a silly old tosser .............
I first played cricket at age 8 and retired at age 54.
46 seasons and over 500 games. You could say I was a true "tragic". In years gone by I'd passionately follow Test Cricket and Shield Cricket and could tell you the Shield Ladder. I can remember going to the 'G on Boxing Day along with 50,000 others and watching NSW play the Vics.
But lately I'm more and more looking forward to the A-League as my summer sport.
Cricket for me has been ruined by Corruption, Betting Scandals and the attitude of the sub continent teams and their couldn't give a bugger attitude when it comes to how their multi million dollar 20/20 competition effects world cricket. My cricketing passion hasn't been helped by an incompetent group of Australian Selectors who have refused to plan for the future. Many of us can remember the World Series days, the thumping we got from the Poms at that time, and have no desire to revisit that era.
But many of us could see todays plight coming. We've been talking about it for years. But the Selectors turned a blind eye, preferring to pacify the Indians rather than plan to beat the Poms.
It's all terribly depressing.
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I first played cricket at age 8 and retired at age 54.
46 seasons and over 500 games. You could say I was a true "tragic". In years gone by I'd passionately follow Test Cricket and Shield Cricket and could tell you the Shield Ladder. I can remember going to the 'G on Boxing Day along with 50,000 others and watching NSW play the Vics.
But lately I'm more and more looking forward to the A-League as my summer sport.
Cricket for me has been ruined by Corruption, Betting Scandals and the attitude of the sub continent teams and their couldn't give a bugger attitude when it comes to how their multi million dollar 20/20 competition effects world cricket. My cricketing passion hasn't been helped by an incompetent group of Australian Selectors who have refused to plan for the future. Many of us can remember the World Series days, the thumping we got from the Poms at that time, and have no desire to revisit that era.
But many of us could see todays plight coming. We've been talking about it for years. But the Selectors turned a blind eye, preferring to pacify the Indians rather than plan to beat the Poms.
It's all terribly depressing.
2c.