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Just love the way Sutherland immediately shifts the blame to Hilditch & Neilson without any official review.
An act of a man desperately looking after his own skin.
I understand that the Australian Test team dropped more catches than the English and missed more run out attempts - Neilson, and
The higglety-pigglety method of selection was questionable - Hilditch,
But .... were Hilditch & Neilson responsible for approving that lousy itinerary that the Test team had in its lead up.
An act of a man desperately looking after his own skin.
I understand that the Australian Test team dropped more catches than the English and missed more run out attempts - Neilson, and
The higglety-pigglety method of selection was questionable - Hilditch,
But .... were Hilditch & Neilson responsible for approving that lousy itinerary that the Test team had in its lead up.
"We were beaten by a better side" isn't acceptable so there's a lot of finger pointing going on; professional sport must have a scapegoat. They can blame the coaches and the selectors but ultimately it rests with the blokes on the field, and they weren't good enough. Perhaps multiple areas are under-performing, but if this series was played 10 times at different venues and under varying conditions, the result would be similar each time IMO.
Phantom said:
Well said Phantom. & very true.
The preparation & leadup itinerary's for the respective sides showed exactly where the priorities of the two boards lay. They were miles apart & without doubt it has a part to play in the result. As CEO James Sutherland is directly responsible for that.
Not a good example to be setting when he says "I think to point the finger at preparation is rubbish". WTF is that from your CEO when it is so obvious England pulled our pants down in that regard.
evo said:
I agree that we are not good enough. In fact, I reckon everyone acknowledges that.
What Phanto/Navy are trying to establish is why this is the case.
I agree that our actions suggested that our priorities were all wrong. There was barely any time for anyone to find form in early summer... meanwhile England appeared to have been planning this campaign for at least 12 months. They beat us in every aspect of the game.
Sadly we appear to have lost a whole generation of players and the next group of talented kids are mostly around 20.
evo said:
Everyone knows we're not good enough.
But do you really think Sutherland has it right when before the most important series he enforces his players to play overseas playing a different format of the game on completely different pitches while the touring team are already setup in your own country.
Even just in navy's playing days of traversing between distict cricket in Aus & county league in England it takes time, let alone Test players.
It may only be a small thing & certainly wasnt the difference, but it wasnt luck that England setup their itinerary so they were here so early & had such a professional leadin.
Everything to do with cricket needs looking at in the country & those responsible for those area's need to take responsibility, which the CEO hasn't.
JAMES SUTHERLAND – LAWS OF LEADERSHIP
• Take responsibility for outcomes
• Develop relationships
• Want to make a difference
• Understand where you want to get to
• If you do a good job today, tomorrow will look after itself
• Have a group of people around you that you can trust and work with
• No secrets; keep communication lines open
• Help others learn and develop
• Share the vision
• Never be satisfied
Sutherland talks about making cricket Australia's favourite sport and sees T20 as a means of attracting fans, but the public reaction to the Ashes defeat shows people still care most about Test cricket. Compromising Test performance in pursuit of reaching those not previously into the game is flirting dangerously with the affections of your core constituency, and the reason for the game's popularity in the first place. We need to refocus on Test cricket. Nobody remembers pyjama results.
• Take responsibility for outcomes
• Develop relationships
• Want to make a difference
• Understand where you want to get to
• If you do a good job today, tomorrow will look after itself
• Have a group of people around you that you can trust and work with
• No secrets; keep communication lines open
• Help others learn and develop
• Share the vision
• Never be satisfied
Sutherland talks about making cricket Australia's favourite sport and sees T20 as a means of attracting fans, but the public reaction to the Ashes defeat shows people still care most about Test cricket. Compromising Test performance in pursuit of reaching those not previously into the game is flirting dangerously with the affections of your core constituency, and the reason for the game's popularity in the first place. We need to refocus on Test cricket. Nobody remembers pyjama results.
Navy Days said:
I don't reckon they do. Hence incessant talk about how England shone the ball, our unprepardness, wrong selections and bla bla bla
Seriously how much "preparation" does it take? After watching cricket for 40 years there are three obvious maxims that win test series: don't continually hang the bat outside off stump; bowl over after over of line and length; hold your catches.
You either follow those maxims or you don't - England did, we didn't.
Everything else is noise and scapegoating.
Personally,
The following strategies might be looked at to revive Australian cricket fortunes.
The aims are:
1. To develop individual batsmen who can score 200 runs or more in a first innings.
2. To develop teams that can consistently score 400+ runs per first innings.
3. To develop individual bowlers who can consistently take 4/5 wickets in an innings.
4. To develop bowling teams that can regularly bowl teams all out twice.
5. To develop Test players to be able to captain & understand how to aggressively lead teams to the above aims.
Strategies:
Nationally
1. That Australia must decide when it wants to play Test cricket and then set aside from a month before the first Test to have all players in Australia playing only the extended 4-5 day format of the game.
2. For foreign Test tours, again, all players need to arrive in that country a month before, playing only the extended 4-5 day format of the game.
3. To re-instate the formation of a regular Australia A side that plays, in the extended form of the game, other international teams both in and outside of Australia.
4. That all 1-day and T20 matches are played after the Test series.
5. That any World Cup series should be scheduled to be completed at least one month before a Test series commences.
6. Key people need to be placed into off-field positions. Names to be considered could be M.Taylor, Hohns, Buchanan.
State
7. For all players, Test & state players, playing in all the Sheffield Shield games prior to and through the Test series.
8. In Domestic seasons where there is a Test series scheduled, that the first class itinerary should officially begin with extended 4-5 games only.
9. Zero points for extended games that are not decided by a 2nd innings win.
Local
10. That local associations, especially in junior divisions, should play only 2 day games from October till January, with 2/3 day finals in February. 1-Day & T20 games & finals in March & April.
11. Zero points to teams that may have a higher score but did not successfully bowl the opposition out.
You may recognise that some of these changes are returning to old rules & procedures but sometimes we learn that moving forward doesn't provide the best result.
I welcome others' suggestions on improving Australian cricket at all levels.
The following strategies might be looked at to revive Australian cricket fortunes.
The aims are:
1. To develop individual batsmen who can score 200 runs or more in a first innings.
2. To develop teams that can consistently score 400+ runs per first innings.
3. To develop individual bowlers who can consistently take 4/5 wickets in an innings.
4. To develop bowling teams that can regularly bowl teams all out twice.
5. To develop Test players to be able to captain & understand how to aggressively lead teams to the above aims.
Strategies:
Nationally
1. That Australia must decide when it wants to play Test cricket and then set aside from a month before the first Test to have all players in Australia playing only the extended 4-5 day format of the game.
2. For foreign Test tours, again, all players need to arrive in that country a month before, playing only the extended 4-5 day format of the game.
3. To re-instate the formation of a regular Australia A side that plays, in the extended form of the game, other international teams both in and outside of Australia.
4. That all 1-day and T20 matches are played after the Test series.
5. That any World Cup series should be scheduled to be completed at least one month before a Test series commences.
6. Key people need to be placed into off-field positions. Names to be considered could be M.Taylor, Hohns, Buchanan.
State
7. For all players, Test & state players, playing in all the Sheffield Shield games prior to and through the Test series.
8. In Domestic seasons where there is a Test series scheduled, that the first class itinerary should officially begin with extended 4-5 games only.
9. Zero points for extended games that are not decided by a 2nd innings win.
Local
10. That local associations, especially in junior divisions, should play only 2 day games from October till January, with 2/3 day finals in February. 1-Day & T20 games & finals in March & April.
11. Zero points to teams that may have a higher score but did not successfully bowl the opposition out.
You may recognise that some of these changes are returning to old rules & procedures but sometimes we learn that moving forward doesn't provide the best result.
I welcome others' suggestions on improving Australian cricket at all levels.
evo said:
Well summed up Evo. That shining the bowl excuse was a cracker. Looking forward to think tanks and bonding trips that make no difference to our batting and bowling. That was ironic too coming from Navy who was the last to accept on the forum that the pommies were miles in front of us.
