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I wonder about the mental approach some of our players take into these games. Do they really realise there is only 20 overs? I think they subconsciously take a wicket-conservation approach (why they didn't do that in the Ashes is the real question).
IMO, with only 20 overs, they should be trying to hit every single ball out of the ground, no exceptions. And given the amounts of runs we were taking off some of the middle overs, I simply can't believe they were doing that.
The traditional game is bat v ball ... the batsmen must decide how much he is willing to risk his wicket in order to score the runs he needs. 20/20 takes half of that equation right out - there is no risk for the batsman. With so little allotted time at the crease, he has no option but to go the doctor and so he gets no blame if he gets out. 20/20 makes the spectacular an irrelevance. Has no meaning for me.
The real irony is that the 50-over game is the one that will die first, when it is now probably the one form which exhibits the best of both types of the game.
IMO, with only 20 overs, they should be trying to hit every single ball out of the ground, no exceptions. And given the amounts of runs we were taking off some of the middle overs, I simply can't believe they were doing that.
The traditional game is bat v ball ... the batsmen must decide how much he is willing to risk his wicket in order to score the runs he needs. 20/20 takes half of that equation right out - there is no risk for the batsman. With so little allotted time at the crease, he has no option but to go the doctor and so he gets no blame if he gets out. 20/20 makes the spectacular an irrelevance. Has no meaning for me.
The real irony is that the 50-over game is the one that will die first, when it is now probably the one form which exhibits the best of both types of the game.
23.21.159 said:
Couldnt disagree more 1980.
Whilst there is no doubt at all that 20/20 requires a very different & certainly far less mentally demanding skillset. There is no doubt that you have how the game should be played pegged wrong INHO.
You suggest that players should try & hit every single ball out of the ground, no exceptions. Fact is there are exactly zero players in the world that can come in & do that consistently. That mindset will only lower the runrate because of the lack of timing & placement the always new batsmen will have.
Players need time to come to terms with the pitch & bowling before they are able to consistently time the ball. That is when the big rewards come. Kieren Pollard is probably the best 20/20 exponent there is & even he will absolutely always give himself at least 6 to 8 balls on strike before consistently going after the bowling.
The key is good players are able to push singles almost every ball whilst going through this period. Its when players dont turn the strike over that hurts teams. Not by not "going the doctor" every ball as you suggest.
The best batting exponents in this Aus England series have not slogged one ball. They remain balanced & play good cricket shots hitting through the ball. Namely Bell & Watson.
Whilst on the bowling front guys that bowl the one pace/one line will routinely get smashed, whilst the one's that can disguise pace & length consistently are hard to get away.
Navy would actually suggest the biggest way batsmen hamper their team in 20/20 is by thinking the game goes too quick & not realising how hard it is for his fellow batsmen to come in & get to the "stage" the he is currently in.
Navy does certainly agree that 20/20 can make the spectacular an irrelevance though.
IanG said:
20/20 will go the same way. Once the formula has been worked out, it will become repetetive. The only adavantage it has over 50 over games is that it is finished quicker.
The variables involved in a 5 day game are what makes cricket the game it is.
Was it his last or second last where he bowled five awesome yorkers in a row then on the sixth ball sprayed it about one meter inside leg stump for four wides? Sums him up quite accurately that over.
Quite right snaps. It was his last over, the second-last of the innings. Five balls perfectly in the right spot and then one shocker to nearly undo all the good.
On the game, I'm with Navy. It's still cricket, maybe not as we know it Jim, but cricket it is. Watson and Bell are still great to watch playing proper cricket shots and a young bloke like Finch gets the chance to shine for his country in front of 58,000. It doesn't mean the death of Test cricket, rumours of which have been greatly exaggerated for going on 30 years now. What it does mean is exposure for the sport and its sponsors in prime time, accessible timeslots and digestible portions. For me it's both a stepping stone game for those pushing for higher honours and as a bridge to the real stuff for new converts, as well as a snack between meals for the rusted-on. One thing you can't deny is it's brought more money to the game, making it a more attractive career choice for those like Alex Keath lucky enough to choose which elite-level sport they will pursue.
On the game, I'm with Navy. It's still cricket, maybe not as we know it Jim, but cricket it is. Watson and Bell are still great to watch playing proper cricket shots and a young bloke like Finch gets the chance to shine for his country in front of 58,000. It doesn't mean the death of Test cricket, rumours of which have been greatly exaggerated for going on 30 years now. What it does mean is exposure for the sport and its sponsors in prime time, accessible timeslots and digestible portions. For me it's both a stepping stone game for those pushing for higher honours and as a bridge to the real stuff for new converts, as well as a snack between meals for the rusted-on. One thing you can't deny is it's brought more money to the game, making it a more attractive career choice for those like Alex Keath lucky enough to choose which elite-level sport they will pursue.
Oops, you can tell I was watching the game while on the turps at the local Trots :-[
I had it in my mind that the last over included the spray down leg side for 4, and the big six to the juiciest half volley you have ever seen.
Still don't rate Tait.
I had it in my mind that the last over included the spray down leg side for 4, and the big six to the juiciest half volley you have ever seen.
Still don't rate Tait.