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Navy Days said:
Navy stands by last nights innings being fine for the circumstances of who he was batting with & the stage of the game. Aus still needed near 200 runs when he came to the wicket. The last thing we needed was another quick wicket with so many still required.

Batting is all about building a score in partnerships. He role was to support Watson which he did. They put on 100 in 18 overs against mainly Swan & Yardy. This was done without risk that made the chase home comfortable.

The test for Clarke in his current form will be when he is required to score at a quicker pace than last night. You would have to have serious question marks on his summers performance that he could.

On Hussey, he is one of the best finishers in one day cricket. Taking someone as cool as him from that spot would be extremely risky with some no-doubt high pressure world cup games on the horizon.

Hussey is simply a class player who should be in earlier. He can pace his innings depending on the circumstances. Clarke has one gear, slow, and all it does is place more pressure on thise below him. Clarke is low on confidence and has been carried in Tests & 20/20 and now it looks like we will be carrying him in the one-dayers.
 
mb64 said:
What about your mate Haddin Lukey,happy with hi keeping performance?

It was an appalling effort behind the stumps by Haddin last night.

As bad as it gets I reckon.

Jeez if he was a Pakistani questions would be asked.
 
josey said:
It was an appalling effort behind the stumps by Haddin last night.

As bas as it gets I reckon.

Jeez if he was a Pakistani questions would be asked.

You gotta laugh at slats for suggesting Haddin being dropped from T20 caused it. Sounds like SEN are buying into this as well. Bloody ridiculous, the selectors want to blood younger players which is a good thing for once. Why is it so hard to understand that he was dropped to give Paine more of a taste not on form.
 
IanG said:
You gotta laugh at slats for suggesting Haddin being dropped from T20 caused it. Sounds like SEN are buying into this as well. Bloody ridiculous, the selectors want to blood younger players which is a good thing for once. Why is it so hard to understand that he was dropped to give Paine more of a taste not on form.

Yeah I agree, Slater quite often forgets to think before he opens his trap.

On Haddin though, he would not want to repeat that effort with the gloves or Paine will have his spot much sooner than expected.
 
IanG said:
You gotta laugh at slats for suggesting Haddin being dropped from T20 caused it. Sounds like SEN are buying into this as well. Bloody ridiculous, the selectors want to blood younger players which is a good thing for once. Why is it so hard to understand that he was dropped to give Paine more of a taste not on form.

I reckon that the selectors have this wrong anyway.

I fully support Paine getting some experience up, but my order of preference for him coming in would have been for both short formats of the game. I don't see any real value in him playing 20/20 only.

And even if they felt it could only be for one of the two short formats, why not bring him in for the 50 over games instead. Get him in the World cup squad as a keeper. I think 20/20 is much more destructive on a players development for the longer format of cricket than 50 over games.
 
josey said:
Yeah I agree, Slater quite often forgets to think before he opens his trap.

On Haddin though, he would not want to repeat that effort with the gloves or Paine will have his spot much sooner than expected.
Slater was disgraceful with his comments,offered no real reason at all.
 
Big Cat Lover said:
Hussey is simply a class player who should be in earlier. He can pace his innings depending on the circumstances. Clarke has one gear, slow, and all it does is place more pressure on thise below him. Clarke is low on confidence and has been carried in Tests & 20/20 and now it looks like we will be carrying him in the one-dayers.

No question Hussey could play anywhere in the order Big Cat. But he's near the best in the world at timing his teams innings in the last 20 when the heat can really get to some players. In a big world cup game in front of those huge crazy Indian crowds navy's much rather Huss coming to the wicket late on in a tight run chase than anyone else.

On Clarke, navy doesnt have a lot of faith either, especially the way he is batting. Buts its harsh after one knock where he did exactly what his team required to say we'll be carrying him in onedayers now as well. His one-day form has been excellent. Averaged 55 at a strike-rate of 80 in 2010. His last 5 innings from most recent are

50 n.o off 51 balls
25 off 30
27 off 31
111 n.o off 139
99 n.o off 106

Thats solid stuff. But one batsmen will be left out of the cup team when Ponting returns. Form through this series will dictate which one.
 
jb03 said:
So in the space of one over we went from needing to slog to needing a quality finisher. Ok.

Sending Smith with a licence was a no lose situation. Comes off in power play game over if not the higher quality batsman are still in a situation where they "should" get the team home.

jb03 said:
Was it bad? Navy would have told us if it was.

Keeping was fine. ;D
 
Navy Days said:
Sending Smith with a licence was a no lose situation. Comes off in power play game over if not the higher quality batsman are still in a situation where they "should" get the team home.

Keeping was fine. ;D
Good to hear
 
the world cup squad has been announced:

The squad is:

Ricky Ponting (c) TAS 36

Michael Clarke (vc) NSW 29

Doug Bollinger NSW 29

Brad Haddin NSW 33

John Hastings VIC 25

Nathan Hauritz NSW 29

David Hussey VIC 33

Mike Hussey WA 35

Mitchell Johnson WA 29

Brett Lee NSW 34

Tim Paine TAS 26

Steve Smith NSW 21

Shaun Tait SA 27

Shane Watson NSW 29

Cameron White VIC 27
 
Xavier Doherty? What, not in the squad and Hauritz gets yo-yo'd back in the squad.

Amazing.

And no Hodge.

And how does Steve Smith get picked againist Dan Christian?

Steve Smith is the most overrated player getting around.

And Tait in India won't work.

And Doug Bollinger in the squad.

Shocking squad.
 
Navy Days said:
On Clarke, navy doesnt have a lot of faith either, especially the way he is batting. Buts its harsh after one knock where he did exactly what his team required to say we'll be carrying him in onedayers now as well. His one-day form has been excellent. Averaged 55 at a strike-rate of 80 in 2010. His last 5 innings from most recent are

50 n.o off 51 balls
25 off 30
27 off 31
111 n.o off 139
99 n.o off 106
Thats solid stuff. But one batsmen will be left out of the cup team when Ponting returns. Form through this series will dictate which one.

The bolded bit I cannot agree with. Coming in at 3 and facing 57 balls for 36 runs when chasing almost 300 is poor. It's not like we were 3 or 4 down and had lost quick wickets. We were 1/100. Not turning the strike over enough to your partner who is slaying them is poor.

IN regards to stats lets look at his last 4 years which takes in around 60 games of ODI - an average of 43 and a strike rate of 70.7 - the average is good but the strike rate is pretty poor. Add this to the fact his overall form is poor and you have a potential liability. The only thing saving him is his ability against the slow bowlers. I'm a Clarke fan but he is really struggling at the moment.
 
Bowling attack shows absolutely no understanding of the sub-continent. Johnson, Tait & Bolly will be cannon-fodder.

Very disappointing.

On Smith, 2/12 off 3 overs the other night. Id didn't see him bowl, but was it encouraging?
 
SCOOP said:
Xavier Doherty? What, not in the squad and Hauritz gets yo-yo'd back in the squad.

Amazing.

And no Hodge.

And how does Steve Smith get picked againist Dan Christian?

Steve Smith is the most overrated player getting around.

And Tait in India won't work.

And Doug Bollinger in the squad.

Shocking squad.
Well summed up Scoop,opposition batsmen will be licking their lips when they face our bowling
 
No suprises in the squad. Hastings in for Siddle was the only one navy didnt have pegged. Cant complain on that selection.

The big worry is the fitness of Ponting & Hussey. If they cant get a decent amount of games under their belts it will definately hinder their performance. Though their should be quite a few easy games early on to help that side of things.

SCOOP said:
Xavier Doherty? What, not in the squad and Hauritz gets yo-yo'd back in the squad.

Amazing.

And no Hodge.

And how does Steve Smith get picked againist Dan Christian?

Steve Smith is the most overrated player getting around.

And Tait in India won't work.

And Doug Bollinger in the squad.

Shocking squad.

Agree with some of that Scooper.

As the best performed slow bowler on the domestic scene for a long while Doherty is very unlucky. Was only just on Sunday but Petersen has his measure.

Navy also agrees with Christian in the squad ahead of Smith. Seems a no brainer...

For Hodge to play he needs to bat top 3. That area isnt a weakness in the side though so navy has no issue with him not playing. His fielding too would be a liability.

On the bowling, it is a definate weak point. But with first choice one-day bowlers McKay & Harris out injured there really isnt a lot left to choose from. McDonald would have been handy over there but hasnt played in months.

Tait is the big risk, was a match winner in the last World Cup. Massive question marks if he can get back to that with him having played so little cricket. He will have the overs put into him in the leadup games to et him up to fitness & speed. If he breaks down with that workload we still get a replacement in.