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spook said:
I suspect you're being sarcastic. He has had a terrible run of form, but you know what they say about form being temporary and class permanent. Too good a player not to come out of it, and as I said, has skippered very well. He's obviously an easy target but I don't understand why people are so quick to sink the boots into him. Short memories. Parts of the crowd booing him onto the field yesterday was a disgrace.
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The crowd booing him is a disgrace.

The issue I have with Clarke is he can't lift our run rate above a run a ball. If we have to chase 300 or post 300 due to it being a good pitch in the world cup, he will be a liability. If we play bowlers based on the pitch why can't we play our bats based on the pitch?

At least in saw the writing on the wall for the 20/20.
 
MB78 said:
The crowd booing him is a disgrace.

The issue I have with Clarke is he can't lift our run rate above a run a ball. If we have to chase 300 or post 300 due to it being a good pitch in the world cup, he will be a liability. If we play bowlers based on the pitch why can't we play our bats based on the pitch?

At least in saw the writing on the wall for the 20/20.
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I actually don't have a problem with having a slower-scoring batsman to provide a spine to the innings, with big hitters around him. The problem with Clarke at the moment is that he has been getting out too cheaply to play this role. Hopefully his half-century is a sign that he is getting over his form slump and he can provide that support to the other batsmen.
 
An in-form Clarke is perfectly capable of scoring at a run a ball, as well as supporting a bloke like Watson or White going much harder. Clarke's career strike rate is not much lower than Punter's or Hayden's, and is slightly higher than Mark Waugh's, slightly higher again than Steve Waugh's; higher than Bevan's, Border's, Boon's...
 
mld said:
I actually don't have a problem with having a slower-scoring batsman to provide a spine to the innings, with big hitters around him. The problem with Clarke at the moment is that he has been getting out too cheaply to play this role. Hopefully his half-century is a sign that he is getting over his form slump and he can provide that support to the other batsmen.
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The Hussey boys also can play this role, but go harder if required. For mine I would bring in M Hussey to replace Clarke and Ponting to replace Marsh.
 
spook said:
An in-form Clarke is perfectly capable of scoring at a run a ball, as well as supporting a bloke like Watson or White going much harder. Clarke's career strike rate is not much lower than Punter's or Hayden's, and is slightly higher than Mark Waugh's, slightly higher again than Steve Waugh's; higher than Bevan's, Border's, Boon's...
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I must admit his strike rate is not that bad. But for a better reflection of where he is at we should compare him with current players or players just out of the game due to better strike rates in the modern ODI.
If we are 2 for 100 needing over a run a ball I would not want Clarke out there. On a good pitch we can play an extra flat track bully.
But I can see a role if the pitch is a bad one i.e. par score 240 or below, as he can craft singles when in form.
So in summery why can we pick our bats based on the pitch?
 
spook said:
An in-form Clarke is perfectly capable of scoring at a run a ball, as well as supporting a bloke like Watson or White going much harder. Clarke's career strike rate is not much lower than Punter's or Hayden's, and is slightly higher than Mark Waugh's, slightly higher again than Steve Waugh's; higher than Bevan's, Border's, Boon's...
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Slightly different era's spook. The one-day game is even further in favour of batsman now, would think average strike rates are up almost 10% in the last 10 years.

Bevan - now there's a one-day name. He is simply miles better than Clarke is and will ever be at this format, and most who have played it for that matter.

An "in-form" Clarke is what we are looking for - hope he turns up in India
 
Sorry guys for the lack of info on the following,

Was streaming 3aw tonight from Bris and during the Sports Tonight program they had someone on (can't remember who) who spoke quite well about Clarke's booing, Hilditches role, Chappel's role, etc. It was quite an interesting convo.
When I looked for the link at 3aw I couldn't find it as they hadn't uploaded it yet, but they may have now.
Just thought I'd mention it for those who like their cricket news
 
spook said:
An in-form Clarke is perfectly capable of scoring at a run a ball, as well as supporting a bloke like Watson or White going much harder. Clarke's career strike rate is not much lower than Punter's or Hayden's, and is slightly higher than Mark Waugh's, slightly higher again than Steve Waugh's; higher than Bevan's, Border's, Boon's...
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The fact is Clarke is out of form & has been for some time.
 
IMO, Clarke's one day captaincy hasn't been too bad, other than his weird decision in Adelaide to stick with the quicks instead of bowling his spinners.

My issue with him is that he has moved himself down the order to try and find some form.

I honestly reckon he should go up the order instead and open the innings.
 
Think its fair enough batting him where he is. Its all about preparing for the World cup ATM.

He'll be batting at 4 there so makes sense he bats at 4 here.
 
Streak said:
IMO, Clarke's one day captaincy hasn't been too bad, other than his weird decision in Adelaide to stick with the quicks instead of bowling his spinners.

My issue with him is that he has moved himself down the order to try and find some form.

I honestly reckon he should go up the order instead and open the innings.
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No way,you want your openers to get off to a flyer while there are fielding restrictions.
 
MB78 said:
I must admit his strike rate is not that bad. But for a better reflection of where he is at we should compare him with current players or players just out of the game due to better strike rates in the modern ODI.
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Like Punter, or Hayden?

Big Cat Lover said:
Slightly different era's spook. The one-day game is even further in favour of batsman now, would think average strike rates are up almost 10% in the last 10 years. Clarke's strike rate is 77. Big-hitter White's is 82. Clarke averages 43 in a form of the game you rarely see players average above 40. Only the best top order players and red ink specialists like Bevan and M.Hussey do that. I'm not saying Clarke is the best one-day batsman in the world or even in the country. But surely, in form, he's in our best six.

Bevan - now there's a one-day name. He is simply miles better than Clarke is and will ever be at this format, and most who have played it for that matter. Yes, Bevan was a limited overs freak, but most of his innings were of the ilk that earned Clarke the 'batting for himself' raspberries he copped the other day.

An "in-form" Clarke is what we are looking for - hope he turns up in India
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I think we all agree on that last part.

mb64 said:
The fact is Clarke is out of form & has been for some time.
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Yep...?
 
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/numbers-crunch-in-clarkes-favour/story-e6frg7rx-1225997720407

not bad for a guy who has been out of form for a long time....

he averaged 50 against sri lanka, made 101 not out in his one innings against india & averaged 110 in england.

he has struggled in tests for a while, he hasnt in onedayers til this series.
 
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