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Yeah saw a fair bit of him in the 20/20 L&D.

Looks a good prospect. Flights the ball really well & gets good drop on the ball. They look his biggest strengths from navy's viewings.

The big challenge for him will be to turn those short game performances into wickets at shield level where the batsman arent continually coming at him & "he" needs to actually "get them out".

Definately worth perservering with cos as we know first class spinners are very barren ATM.
 
Navy Days said:
He's has an absolutely massive year with the ball Bigwow. Another big bag of 6 yesterday to be easily the leading shield wicket taker this season with 37 @ 15.
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The concern for Australian cricket from the Sheffield Shield and the Riobi Cup this year is that really noone has made lots of runs. I think Khuwaja is still the leading run scorer in the longer stuff. There are lots of really impressive bowling figures . Butterworth is one , Copeland is another . We seem to have lots of emerging bowlers . Starc , Pattison , Richardson from SA , Faulkner , Cummins . I wonder however if this says as much about the lack of quality batting in Interstate cricket as it says about the bowling ? Or maybe the pitches with all the rain around ? Maybe some who watch some interstate cricket may have a comment ?

Its a real struggle to come up with names of any ready made International batsmen playing Interstate cricket .
 
Sintiger said:
The concern for Australian cricket from the Sheffield Shield and the Riobi Cup this year is that really noone has made lots of runs. I think Khuwaja is still the leading run scorer in the longer stuff. There are lots of really impressive bowling figures . Butterworth is one , Copeland is another . We seem to have lots of emerging bowlers . Starc , Pattison , Richardson from SA , Faulkner , Cummins . I wonder however if this says as much about the lack of quality batting in Interstate cricket as it says about the bowling ? Or maybe the pitches with all the rain around ? Maybe some who watch some interstate cricket may have a comment ?

Its a real struggle to come up with names of any ready made International batsmen playing Interstate cricket .
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yeah, looking at the leading run scorers list it seems to be made up of guys who have been around for a while without great success or young guys who need a bit more experience, with a few guys like marsh and ferguson who have been injured. a few of these guys need to follow up next year then will have earnt a higher honours. i dont think it all gloom, the potential is there.

as for onedayers, there is one guy who is averaging about 70 at a run a ball. and has done for a few years. but he hasnt been considered for whatever reason.
 
Sintiger said:
The concern for Australian cricket from the Sheffield Shield and the Riobi Cup this year is that really noone has made lots of runs. I think Khuwaja is still the leading run scorer in the longer stuff. There are lots of really impressive bowling figures . Butterworth is one , Copeland is another . We seem to have lots of emerging bowlers . Starc , Pattison , Richardson from SA , Faulkner , Cummins . I wonder however if this says as much about the lack of quality batting in Interstate cricket as it says about the bowling ? Or maybe the pitches with all the rain around ? Maybe some who watch some interstate cricket may have a comment ?

Its a real struggle to come up with names of any ready made International batsmen playing Interstate cricket .
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Yeah good point ST,

To enhance your view - If you look at clearly the two best first class sides this year - (NSW & Tas) who already have the final sown up despite two rounds left to play. Even these two teams really only have Khawaja & Bailey who've played much shield this year & could currently make the transition to Test cricket. (Though Cossie possibly could if he gave up the pies & Maddinson will in time).

On the pitches, cant really speak for the other grounds but maybe thats played a role, not sure of the other grounds but Bellerive is definately a swing/seam pitch these days. Runs have been at a real premium all year. Which does enhance the bowling stats & worsens the batting stats to what they would be if the pitch was flatter.

Another reason is that with the advent of the shorter games batsman just dont have the technique & patience of there predecesors.

Remember back to when we had guys like Siddons, Love, Cox, Hodge, Lehmann etc churning out 1000+ run seasons year after year & not getting a look into the Aus side.
 
Navy Days said:
Another reason is that with the advent of the shorter games batsman just dont have the technique & patience of there predecesors.
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Spot on Leysey, and that has carried into the test arena with the supposedly best players in the country not able to to construct long innings. Blokes make plenty of starts, but not many big scores. Tie them down and they will get themselves out.
 
Not having a left-handed batsman in the squad could hurt us. Must say I was amazed Shaun Marsh was left out. White's place is under threat big-time, or should be. He's lead-footed, ponderous, and takes 30 balls to get in. Ferguson and Paine are both better batsmen who can score from the get-go.

Not sure Haddin opening is going to work on these pitches, if teams apply similar tactics to yesterday. As mentioned earlier, it was a golden opportunity to throw Johnson in early but Ponting is too stodgy a thinker. Ian Chappell highlighted that the Aussies have invoked the batting powerplay after the 40th over 40 times in the past 41 matches. That's painting by numbers. Still, the bowling looked good, from what I saw. Johnson was very tight and Krejza held his own. His test will come against the strong batting lineups. Sri Lanka etc will go after him.

On these pitches I'd look at a lineup like this:
Watson
Clarke
Ponting
Hussey
Ferguson
Haddin
Smith
Johnson (but throw him in early whenever the chance arises)
Lee
Krejza
Tait
 
spook said:
Not having a left-handed batsman in the squad could hurt us. Must say I was amazed Shaun Marsh was left out. White's place is under threat big-time, or should be. He's lead-footed, ponderous, and takes 30 balls to get in. Ferguson and Paine are both better batsmen who can score from the get-go.
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on white, i reckon they will give him more chances. when he turns it on he is probably the most damaging bat the aussies have, and he has some good past form in the sub-continent. he did struggle against england, but at the same time he did play some very important innings at key times.
having said that, he would want some runs some time soon, and quick runs.
 
spook said:
On these pitches I'd look at a lineup like this:
Watson
Clarke
Ponting
Hussey
Ferguson
Haddin
Smith
Johnson (but throw him in early whenever the chance arises)
Lee
Krejza
Tait
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Agree that Clarke could go to opening - has a terrific record there
Would think about Ferguson at 4 and Hussey at 5
 
bigwow said:
I've sort of liked the look of Luke Butterworth as an all-rounder over the past couple of seasons.
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Butterworth has backed you up again Bigwow. Followed up his 6 wickets with thus far 91 not out the following day.

& Netherlands look like setting England a more than competitive score on tonights World Cup match. Really shows how far off the pace the Poms are.
 
My wife thinks I'm nuts - giggling away like an idiot while following on cricinfo. 2 mates have asked me to stop texting updates as they are in bed. Eat 'em alive Dutchies.
 
Navy Days said:
Would go very very close.

Netherlands 50/1 pre game. Into $4 now.
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5/274 with 2 overs left, Anderson having a complete brain freeze in his last couple of overs. Should have been removed, Strauss not happy!
 
Poms snuck through , pity .

On Clarke opening , I reckon it depends on who we are playing . He seems to be in good form again and with all the spinners playing in this World cup we need him in the middle order playing the spinners in the middle overs. Whatever we think of Clarke , he is a very good player of spin bowling when in form as he works the ball around and picks off ones and twos.

His technique against spin compared to White as an example is like night and day. White tends to prod at the ball , Clarkey finds gaps .
 
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