Cricket

[Big Cat Lover]

what? the truth isn't very intelligent? yes, in fairness i didn't see his whole innings, but i have no doubt he was guiding himself to the century by knocking it around for singles in the 90's. in the batting powerplay with 5 wickets in hand he should have been trying to smash every ball out of the ground. india won with less than 3 overs to spare right? an extra 20 runs might have won us the game.

Your 2 posts on Ponting show you should stick to the soccer thread

 

[Big Cat Lover]

I though Ponting was good, but clearly well below his best.
D Hussey showed how do do it in his cameo. After 70 balls, Ricky was 50-odd. He HAD to start taking risks at that point. We were not going to beat India with 250, which is where we were heading. I would have preferred Ricky pin his ears back and get to 100 off 95 and risk going out at 70.
Perhaps he was conscious of the news reports (as was what inevitably happened to S Waugh in his last 2 seasons).

Trying to justify your criticism of him? 100 in a quarter final of World Cup against the hosts on their home soil under enormous pressure and you find room to criticise?

 

[Big Cat Lover]

260 was very close to a par score. It was very defendable if we bowled well, which unfortunately we didnt.

Poor old Punter even when he plays out of his skin the knockers are out.

Amazing hey?

The middle order falling around him, a combined 23 off 50 from Clarke/Hussey/White, and Ponting played selfishly?

260 was defendable, having Tait/Lee/Johnson on that track made it too hard. Add Krezja and his inability to tie batsman down and we simply didn't pick the squad for the conditions.

 

[Streak]

260 was defendable, having Tait/Lee/Johnson on that track made it too hard. Add Krezja and his inability to tie batsman down and we simply didn't pick the squad for the conditions.

That is a little too hard IMO BCL

I don't reckon we have the players just at the moment.

 

[Big Cat Lover]

That is a little too hard IMO BCL

I don't reckon we have the players just at the moment.

Given our bowling line up we needed to bowl them out as we were never going to restrict them. The start was crucial and whilst Lee was a little unlucky, Tait was poor. We needed a stump to stump medium pacer/spinner.

 

[23.21.159]

So now Tait has retired from the 50-over game too in order to concentrate on his 20-over career!

What a pathetic excuse of an international cricketer this bloke has been.

 

[Punxsutawney Phil]

So now Tait has retired from the 50-over game too in order to concentrate on his 20-over career!

What a pathetic excuse of an international cricketer this bloke has been.

Yep. Selectors need to put a line through him.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Yep. Selectors need to put a line through him.

Umpires should. He's a chucker.

 

[Leysy Days]

Ricky ponting has called a press conference for 1pm today. Going by his comments when arriving in the country it will be to step down as captain.

Its a good time to do so, expect the great man to continue on as a batsman. As he should.

 

[Tigers of Old]

He should call it quits altogether.

What challenge is there for him to go on?
The WC is 4 years away and the Ashes just passed.

Let the rebuild of Australian cricket continue and get his games into a younger player with upside.

 

[Big Cat Lover]

He should call it quits altogether.

What challenge is there for him to go on?
The WC is 4 years away and the Ashes just passed.

Let the rebuild of Australian continue and get his games into a younger player with upside.

So no one should continue past a certain date TOO? Does this apply to all older players? Is Tendulkar damaging the longer term prospects of India by playing on?

I'd like to see the young guys force their way in with a mountain of runs.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Is Tendulkar damaging the longer term prospects of India by playing on?

Not sure if you've noticed but Sachin is still the Little Master. Going by Old Punter's last two years he's a wannabe by comparison.
Time to call curtains on a great career.

 

[Big Cat Lover]

Not sure if you've noticed but Sachin is still the Little Master. Going by Old Punter's last two years he's a wannabe by comparison.
Time to call curtains on a great career.

Between Oct 2004 - Jul 2008 Tendulkar scored 1869 runs @ 36.64 (I have excluded Bangladesh from these figures - add them in and he averages 44). I know there were calls for him to consider retirement. Since then he has made 2815 @ 72 (no bangladesh games to remove).

 

[mb64]

So now Tait has retired from the 50-over game too in order to concentrate on his 20-over career!

What a pathetic excuse of an international cricketer this bloke has been.

Exactly,should never play for Australia again

 

[mb64]

Ricky ponting has called a press conference for 1pm today. Going by his comments when arriving in the country it will be to step down as captain.

Its a good time to do so, expect the great man to continue on as a batsman. As he should.

He's not quitting,he's been pushed & Cricket Aust are trying to fool us into believing it will be Ponting's decision.He has been a great batsman but an average captain.Still has a few runs in him if he bats around 5 or 6.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Between Oct 2004 - Jul 2008 Tendulkar scored 1869 runs @ 36.64 (I have excluded Bangladesh from these figures - add them in and he averages 44). I know there were calls for him to consider retirement. Since then he has made 2815 @ 72 (no bangladesh games to remove).

My point still stands.

Ponting is claiming younger players need to learn from him so he should remain in the side?
I'm sorry but this smacks of selfishness and self preservation.

Cricket is not football, it's a far more individualised spot.
Besides there is plenty of experienced players in that team that a younger player can learn from and the best way that they can learn is exposure to international cricket. Punter batting down the order at 5 or 6 is just delaying this.

Ricky you have been there and done that. There are no challenges left.
Like former champs before you, step out when you are still remembered for all the right reasons and let the incumbent skipper get on with it without your shadow hanging over them.

It's time to go Punter.

 

[Leysy Days]

Between Oct 2004 - Jul 2008 Tendulkar scored 1869 runs @ 36.64 (I have excluded Bangladesh from these figures - add them in and he averages 44). I know there were calls for him to consider retirement. Since then he has made 2815 @ 72 (no bangladesh games to remove).

Excellent post & point extremely well made. Tendulkar was in a trough for a very long time seemingly late in his career. People have short memories of this.

True greats of the game, like Ponting & Tendulkar through there achievements deserve the opportunity to play there way out of slumps.

When its time to rebuild lesser cricketers like Haddin & Mike Hussey unfortunately don't.

 

[mb64]

Excellent post & point extremely well made. Tendulkar was in a trough for a very long time seemingly late in his career. People have short memories of this.

True greats of the game, like Ponting & Tendulkar through there achievements deserve the opportunity to play there way out of slumps.

When its time to rebuild lesser cricketers like Haddin & Mike Hussey unfortunately don't.

Agree,Hussey & Haddin should be straught out the door along with Lee & Tait.

 

[lukeanddad]

Between Oct 2004 - Jul 2008 Tendulkar scored 1869 runs @ 36.64 (I have excluded Bangladesh from these figures - add them in and he averages 44). I know there were calls for him to consider retirement. Since then he has made 2815 @ 72 (no bangladesh games to remove).

Do you have access to Ponting's last 2-3 yrs' average? It would be interesting to read. Incidentally, 44 is only poor when you are coming off 58. Redpath, Walters and I Chappel all managed this - or a bit less!

BTW, the other reason Sachin was retained is that he is a God in India. The selctor who announced his demise would have had an effigy burned, his children kidnapped and his house demolished.

 

[Leysy Days]

Do you have access to Ponting's last 2-3 yrs' average? It would be interesting to read. Incidentally, 44 is only poor when you are coming off 58. Redpath, Walters and I Chappel all managed this - or a bit less!

Ponting averages 40.42 over the past 3 years. With no games against Bangladesh who were horrible earlier this decade to boost his average. As you allude historically not a poor return, just solid.

Like Tendulkar Punter also came off an average of 58 up to this point. So does he get the same leeway Tendulkar did. Almost identicle numbers of what they returned until they went through a "slump".