mb64 said:
Time to clean out the selection panel too. Boony was great value but its time to go. Cox can go about his other businesses as well. Hilditch has proven to be a spud.
Maybe some of the more recently retired players can come in.
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Time to clean out the selection panel too. Boony was great value but its time to go. Cox can go about his other businesses as well. Hilditch has proven to be a spud.
Maybe some of the more recently retired players can come in.
jb03 said:
Clarke is more style than substance in my eyes. It may be an unfair appraisal I will admit, but thats the way I see him. And a guy like that is not really someone I want to lead my cricket team.
Maybe people here should try and name an alternative 14 person squad to go to Bangladesh especially in the batsmen ? I agree with a lot of the sentiment here but the problem is that when i think through who I think should be named I really struggle to come up with a better squad of players that actually deserve a chance .
In one day cricket I could come up with an argument for Finch , Bailey , S Marsh ( but I don't think he is fit) ........ If you remember back to the England series Voges got picked after not making any runs for the whole season for WA . Maybe Klinger or even Cosgrove ? I am really struggling now.
I think this is the issue . Its fine to say we need change but we have older players and some really young developing players but not much in the middle.
In one day cricket I could come up with an argument for Finch , Bailey , S Marsh ( but I don't think he is fit) ........ If you remember back to the England series Voges got picked after not making any runs for the whole season for WA . Maybe Klinger or even Cosgrove ? I am really struggling now.
I think this is the issue . Its fine to say we need change but we have older players and some really young developing players but not much in the middle.
Punxsutawney Phil said:
I understand the angst but we don't have a lot to lose atm given our current standing in world cricket already.
Besides Clarke did pretty well as skipper in the most ODI series in Australia.
I think he shows far more imagination than punter as a captain.
Give him a chance. He might surprise.
Tigers of Old said:
Agree. Have not historically been a Ponting or a Clarke fan, but we lost the Tests 3-1 and won the one-dayers 6-1. Aside from the style of game, what was the main difference as far as Australia were concerned?
Interesting one is the opinion on Clarke.
Is polar opposite to Ponting -
Whereas Punter was from the old school in that he -
- played hard (some would say too hard at times)
- liked a beer
- demanded from his players
- could look teammates in the eye & give them a rocket when needed
Clarke will be from the new Gen Y school. He will cuddle his players. His two possible advantages over Ponting could be his tactical acumen which was a Ponting weakness (though he will find captaining tests with the bowling attack he'll be given completely different to the one-day cricket he's captained) & that he may be able to relate to the young players better.
Where his weaknesses may lie ILO is will he be able to have the full admiration respect of all his teammates to lift & inspire them behind him. Also, will he have the balls to look guys in the eye & give them a rocket when deserved. His poor recent form in test cricket will also come under hotter scrutiny as test teams ALWAYS target the opposition captain.
The other is that unlike Ponting he comes across as not being his own man. Ponting couldn't give a *smile* about his public image & played simply to win. Clarke can come off as trying to be all things to all people, & possibly not being true to himself in the process, which people can see through.
Is polar opposite to Ponting -
Whereas Punter was from the old school in that he -
- played hard (some would say too hard at times)
- liked a beer
- demanded from his players
- could look teammates in the eye & give them a rocket when needed
Clarke will be from the new Gen Y school. He will cuddle his players. His two possible advantages over Ponting could be his tactical acumen which was a Ponting weakness (though he will find captaining tests with the bowling attack he'll be given completely different to the one-day cricket he's captained) & that he may be able to relate to the young players better.
Where his weaknesses may lie ILO is will he be able to have the full admiration respect of all his teammates to lift & inspire them behind him. Also, will he have the balls to look guys in the eye & give them a rocket when deserved. His poor recent form in test cricket will also come under hotter scrutiny as test teams ALWAYS target the opposition captain.
The other is that unlike Ponting he comes across as not being his own man. Ponting couldn't give a *smile* about his public image & played simply to win. Clarke can come off as trying to be all things to all people, & possibly not being true to himself in the process, which people can see through.
23.21.159 said:
Pretty simple 159
Test rankings - England 3 Vs Australia 5
One - Day - England 5 V Australia 1
Both teams strengths in the two formats are weaknesses in the other. Simply can't compare the two. The Poms were rolled by Ireland & Bangladesh at the WC.
Tigers of Old said:
You should have seen leysy's take on the over-reaction to Australia's team to play Bangladesh before his laptop spat it as he hit post. ;D
Sintiger said:
It was actually Neil Harvey I was thinking about.
Figured you meant batsmen. Warnie would be a lock for No.2 IMO if we looked at bowlers.
Cracking high pressure Ind v Pakistan game. Pressure on those players incredible, even Tendulkar looked shaky. Would love to see Pakistan get up.
jb03 said:
Great fightback. With India sitting nicely at 4 - 170 from thirty overs with Tendulkar still in they would be disappointed with ninety off the last twenty.
5 - 46 from ten overs for Wahab is a top effort against India. Go Paki's!
Was a good fight back. Still India would be more than happy with 260. A score that sees them as rightful Favs. A very difficult chase under pressure.