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England are currently dismantling India's batting lineup. 6-55. Tendulkar is not out with 32 of those.
Some old fashioned hostile chin music has found a few 20/20 techniques out. Namely Yuvraj Singh & Suresh Raina.
Some old fashioned hostile chin music has found a few 20/20 techniques out. Namely Yuvraj Singh & Suresh Raina.
spook said:
Did Jones get recalled and the umpire said "I've given you out, you have to go"? Or am I getting it mixed up with Rodney Hogg when he was run out by the point fieldsman while doing some "gardening", then was called back to the middle by Pakistan's skipper, then given out again by the umpire and smashed the stumps with his bat?
Leysy Days said:
Twas a very good win by the Poms Leysy....came back from being 8/124 on day one to wipe the floor with the Indians.
They have some steel about them this England side...in the past 8/124 on day one would have led to a big loss. Playing some very good cricket.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
I only saw the youtube footage, yes he wasn't attempting a run but he looks ariound when the ball comes in. He is only at the other end of the pitch when the bails are taken off not near the boundary line. Dumb to be out of your crease whilst unsure whether the ball is in play or not. Umpire had not called tea. Should have been out for such a stupid error. Good sportsmanship by the Indians though, wonder if they would have done the same if it was at Eden Gardens?
Jones wasn't recalled, the ump didn't realise he'd made a blue until it was pointed out to him after play. Dirty play by the Windies. I'm too young to remember the Hogg incident.LeeToRainesToRoach said:
How well are the Poms going. Look to have no.1 sewn up. Broad takes wickets in bunches and makes crucial runs, and Bresnan is a very handy player in both disciplines too. I've always found Yuvraj to be a flat-track pajama hero, and he never lets me down.
And yes Big Cat, Bushy's articles are always good reading. I won't say he's stolen some of my ideas, just that great minds think alike.
Punxsutawney Phil said:
There bowling attack is really World Class. Love watching batsman's technique put under the cosh like it was last night.
As leysy mentioned earlier some 20/20/One-Day cricket technique's by the likes of Yuvraj Singh & Suresh Raina were found out for the limited games they have.
It was pretty hostile stuff & they along with the opener Mukend had no idea & were dead set sh!tting themselves. True test of a cricketer.
Sehwag & Gambhir should both be back for the 3rd test which will stiffen them up a lot.
As an aside how good has Rahul Dravid been of late. Most thought him gone a couple of years back, but at 38 is in career best form. Shows how long batsmen with a solid technique & mindset can go on til.
Leysy Days said:
I am surprised they went with Yuvraj again....he has been exposed at test level several times before, and as you rightly point out, when facing a world class attack like Englands, his flaws are there for the world to see.
As an aside, I am happy to see Harbhajan copping stick over there...got smacked around Lord's in the first test, and his captain only bowled him for 9 expensive overs during England's second innings at Trent Bridge. Can't stand him.
Punxsutawney Phil said:
I actually don't mind Harb in a peverse sort of way. He's shown plenty of guts as a cricketer against Aust and is a fierce ompetitor. Has a mental edge over Ponting which counts for plenty.
mld said:
Even regardless of whether or not he was attempting a run, there's still another even more obvious reason he shouldn't've been given out.
Big Cat Lover said:
He looked around because Morgan raised his hand and said something. Morgan seemed cognisant of the situation and didn't budge, and indeed grounded his bat behind the crease again as Bell got closer. As you say, technically out and a lapse in concentration on Bell's part, helped no doubt by a combination of the crowd cheering an apparent boundary, the fielder's lack of haste in returning the ball, and the timing of the incident on the stroke of tea. But you know in your heart as a fielding team when you've dismissed a batsman on merit, and that wasn't it.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
In reality merit's got nothing to do with it LTRTR. Why do bowlers appeal for LBW even though they know the batsman has hit it?
Why do keepers appeal for caught behind when they know the batsman has not hit it?
Where is the merit in those dismissals?
Personally think it is good for the game that he was recalled but would not have bothered me too much if he was out given he should have remained in his crease until he was 100% positive it was 4 or the umpire had called lunch.
Big Cat Lover said:
I can see we aren't going to agree on this, but never mind. An lbw or caught behind is at least in the course of play, where a supposedly competent umpire is employed to make the right decision and perhaps admonish the bowler or captain for frivolous appeals. The run out rule wasn't written for the batsman to be dismissed while making his way off the field for a scheduled break.
Cricket is meant to be played hard but fair. The run out was a low act IMO, arguably more unsportsmanlike than ball tampering. The English players were justifiably filthy while Bell walked off. Easy to imagine a tit-for-tat situation developing, like with the Hurst/Bakht and Sarfraz/Hilditch incidents at the WACA in 1979...'Mankading' and appealing for handled ball are similarly legal but unscrupulous methods of dismissal.
As you say, a sensible decision was reached, even if it required some prompting from the Poms.
Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot, and say Sachin or Rahul had been run out in those circumstances?
The cries of racial bias would still be reverberating around the cricket world.
The cries of racial bias would still be reverberating around the cricket world.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
More unsportsmanlike than ball tampering? What rot. So it doesn't matter that the bowler knows he has not legitimately dismissed the batsman when he knows it has been edged onto his pad because it is in the course of play? So a run out, when a batsman has stupidly left his crease before confirming either a boundary or the end of the over is not in the course of play? Why was he given out? Cannot understand how the Indians are getting bagged over this. Doubt Lillee/Marsh/Chappell etc would have been too interested in recalling him.