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Agree with the criticism of the dismissals but everyone has overlooked the most irresponsible of them all.
jb03 said:
Tell me when to laugh jimbob. This game will be over by Day 3!
This Australian team is a joke.
TigerForce said:
Yep TF, you are not wrong.
If it wasn't bad enough getting smashed in 3 of the 5 ashes tests on home soil, we then serve up this.
Punxsutawney Phil said:
Trying to separate shades of black is no easy task.
You're right some careers are about to come to a grinding halt very shortly.
Punxsutawney Phil said:
Yep, we all like mr cricket but that shot was completely irresponsible.
First ball after tea and he is slashing wildly outside off and offered up the inevitable. Out of character yes but that doesnt diminish that shot.
Been a horrIble test for him with the added dolly he dropped last ball of the day to dismiss Amla. How crucial will that be...
Punxsutawney Phil said:
The Kiwis and India might be enjoying this. I'll be looking at their odds in the Test series coming up.
Leysy Days said:
Only just realised he dropped Amla last ball. Terrible end to a terrible day.
So far down he is out of the team . Great punter fan but I think its all over for him . Could be the first hard call for Mr InverarityTigers of Old said:
the kiwis just struggled in Zimbabwe . If we can't beat them it really is all over .TigerForce said:
Swing and seam has done the Aussies in for years...we just don't bat in conditions like that too often.
Having said that, Ponting and Watson missed straight ones, Haddin, Johnson and Hussey played awful shots, and perhaps some of the others could use swing and or seam as an excuse.
We were shot ducks mentally after we lost a few quick ones at the start. Mentally fragile, which has seen so many batting collapses over the past few years.
Having said that, Ponting and Watson missed straight ones, Haddin, Johnson and Hussey played awful shots, and perhaps some of the others could use swing and or seam as an excuse.
We were shot ducks mentally after we lost a few quick ones at the start. Mentally fragile, which has seen so many batting collapses over the past few years.
Yep, and it might appear that most elite batsmen have forsaken correct technique in difficult conditions.
Ponting's attempt to turn a straight ball to leg was reminiscent of Gooch and most of the English team during the 1989 Ashes series.
Alderman showed that you didn't need to bowl fast to get a heap of LBWs.
Ponting's attempt to turn a straight ball to leg was reminiscent of Gooch and most of the English team during the 1989 Ashes series.
Alderman showed that you didn't need to bowl fast to get a heap of LBWs.
Some good valid points in what is the best thread on PRE.
Whilst there is no one right answer on this issue, & some players techniques or bad habits do make it hard for them there is a far bigger reason ILO for our batting woes.
But firstly on the pitches, yes international pitches are mostly dull & lifeless these days that certainly isnt the case at domestic level. In fact there has been a lot of criticism that state pitches need to be toned down as curators produce result wickets across the country. So players that have cut there teeth recently in shield cricket should be used to tough batting conditions.
The biggest reason for leysy is not technique but that batsmen have lost the art of batting time. With the plethora of 20/20 & one-day cricket most players just dont have the patience to work for long periods for minimal runs when the going is tough. A few tight overs or even balls at test level to our players & the big shot comes out.
This "batting time" leysy speaks of is possibly the most underrated skill a batsman can have. & Australia currently dont have it.
The best performing yet supposedly lesser talented top order players of today like Dravid, Cook, Trott etc do.
Whilst there is no one right answer on this issue, & some players techniques or bad habits do make it hard for them there is a far bigger reason ILO for our batting woes.
But firstly on the pitches, yes international pitches are mostly dull & lifeless these days that certainly isnt the case at domestic level. In fact there has been a lot of criticism that state pitches need to be toned down as curators produce result wickets across the country. So players that have cut there teeth recently in shield cricket should be used to tough batting conditions.
The biggest reason for leysy is not technique but that batsmen have lost the art of batting time. With the plethora of 20/20 & one-day cricket most players just dont have the patience to work for long periods for minimal runs when the going is tough. A few tight overs or even balls at test level to our players & the big shot comes out.
This "batting time" leysy speaks of is possibly the most underrated skill a batsman can have. & Australia currently dont have it.
The best performing yet supposedly lesser talented top order players of today like Dravid, Cook, Trott etc do.
Leysy Days said:
Agreed Leysy. I would say that normally Hussey is about the only Australian batsman who is prepared to dig in and bat time (though this test he didn't), and Marsh in his short career so far has shown an ability to do this. Can't say the same for any other of our batsmen.
They leave few balls alone outside off stump (blokes don't seem to know where their off stump is anymore) and play across the line too often to straight ones to try and turn good deliveries into scoring opportunities. Trott and Cook last summer showed the value of patience. Seems none of our batsmen took any notice.
That being said the Sowd Efricans were not much better in their first dig . A number of their guys refused to play with a straight bat to a straight ball . Seems to be trend now ,playing across the line to a ball even on off stump and backing your eye .Leysy Days said: