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Bill James
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Horrible. The wheels have completely fallen off.
We were 1 wicket away from making them follow on, and now will possibly lose by 9 wickets.
It's going to leave a few mental scars this game.
Changes must be made. Heads need to roll.
We were 1 wicket away from making them follow on, and now will possibly lose by 9 wickets.
It's going to leave a few mental scars this game.
Changes must be made. Heads need to roll.
Once again the Johnson effect undermines the rest of the attack.
Though it has to be said Harris has yet again been exposed as ordinary once the batsmen are set and the pitch stops helping.
Though it has to be said Harris has yet again been exposed as ordinary once the batsmen are set and the pitch stops helping.
And right on cue Mitch gets another undeserved junk time scalp to go with all the others that probably constitute more than half his career tally.
Does anyone here seriously think Cummins -even as a raw teenager on debut- would've bowled any worse in this game than Johnson has?
I think not.
Does anyone here seriously think Cummins -even as a raw teenager on debut- would've bowled any worse in this game than Johnson has?
I think not.
Funny, brings back memories of a cricket match that I played in decades ago. I may have even been still a teenager at the time. It was played down at Elsternwick Park.
We batted first and made a respectable 150 in mostly wet conditions on the first day. Our opening partnership was about 70, with myself and the other opener each making about 30-35 runs. They had a left-arm seamer who bowled well and would have done better had steamier conditions existed.
At the end of the day, we had them about 6/50 and got them all out early on the second day for less than 100. So we entered our second innings with a good 50 run lead.
Unfortunately, the conditions had changed with the evaporating wetness in heat. These were now perfect steamy conditions for that swing bowler.
We were all out for 18. The two top scores were 7 and 5. I either got the 7 or the 5, sundries got the other.
Conditions changed again, with the sky clearing. They got the runs with 2 or 3 wickets to spare.
Yep, we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
Strange, had many great victories over the years but losses like that stay with you just as strongly.
That's cricket!
We batted first and made a respectable 150 in mostly wet conditions on the first day. Our opening partnership was about 70, with myself and the other opener each making about 30-35 runs. They had a left-arm seamer who bowled well and would have done better had steamier conditions existed.
At the end of the day, we had them about 6/50 and got them all out early on the second day for less than 100. So we entered our second innings with a good 50 run lead.
Unfortunately, the conditions had changed with the evaporating wetness in heat. These were now perfect steamy conditions for that swing bowler.
We were all out for 18. The two top scores were 7 and 5. I either got the 7 or the 5, sundries got the other.
Conditions changed again, with the sky clearing. They got the runs with 2 or 3 wickets to spare.
Yep, we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
Strange, had many great victories over the years but losses like that stay with you just as strongly.
That's cricket!
Tigers of Old said:
Well Haddin should never play again...you can't let him wear the baggy green again after that shot yesterday. Selectors need to send a message.
Johnson should join him, he is a liability. We can't afford to keep playing him waiting for that one day where he actually bowls like a front line bowler.
Ponting is finished unfortunately. Missing straight ones, playing around his front pad...time waits for noone.
And Hughes should not be opening the batting.
Problem is, there is a squad of only 14 or so there, so they probably won't make heaps of changes for the next test. At the very least, Wade should be flown over.
Yes it was.
Take some getting over a defeat that happens like that.
One of the crazier tests leysy's seen.
Take some getting over a defeat that happens like that.
One of the crazier tests leysy's seen.
Its the ease of the comeback- how we handed back such a big advantage so quickly and so spinelessly - that is the most incredible thing. To think, this time last night we had a 188 run first innings lead, and to lose by 8 wickets...I still can't quite believe it.
There is no position of strength now that Australia can't blow, and I reckon every team knows it. We have seen some remarkable lows recently...3 innings defeats in a home ashes series amongst them, but this is as low as it gets.
Our batting has been prone to spectacular collapses for a couple of years, our attack has constantly struggled to take 20 wickets over the same period and our mental toughness is paper thin.
We are like England of the 1990s. The scars from this will take a long while to heal IPPHO.
There is no position of strength now that Australia can't blow, and I reckon every team knows it. We have seen some remarkable lows recently...3 innings defeats in a home ashes series amongst them, but this is as low as it gets.
Our batting has been prone to spectacular collapses for a couple of years, our attack has constantly struggled to take 20 wickets over the same period and our mental toughness is paper thin.
We are like England of the 1990s. The scars from this will take a long while to heal IPPHO.
The mental toughness aint there.
Whether thats a result of the new climate of cricket and the love affair with 20/20 swing and hit cricket or just the players i just couldnts see Steven Waugh, David Boon Justin Langer, Matty Hayden and Gilly throwing it like this theyd put their heads down gritted their teeth and accepted the hard work needed, many of this lot just dont have it they dont exude it.
Even the bowlers of recent years all had moments of glory with the bat holding ends up, Warne, Gillespie, McGrath Bichel, and Reiffel etc.
Ponting is past it the fall comes quick after 34 for most batsmen, Hussey is in this boat too.
Katich has the grit of a Langer or Steve Waugh but he too is too old to go with.
Watson whilst the most notoriable performer has not kicked on as often as he should have, but has been a key , Haddin is too impetuous has never really been a guts and grit batsmen and Hughes has a shocking technique.
Whether thats a result of the new climate of cricket and the love affair with 20/20 swing and hit cricket or just the players i just couldnts see Steven Waugh, David Boon Justin Langer, Matty Hayden and Gilly throwing it like this theyd put their heads down gritted their teeth and accepted the hard work needed, many of this lot just dont have it they dont exude it.
Even the bowlers of recent years all had moments of glory with the bat holding ends up, Warne, Gillespie, McGrath Bichel, and Reiffel etc.
Ponting is past it the fall comes quick after 34 for most batsmen, Hussey is in this boat too.
Katich has the grit of a Langer or Steve Waugh but he too is too old to go with.
Watson whilst the most notoriable performer has not kicked on as often as he should have, but has been a key , Haddin is too impetuous has never really been a guts and grit batsmen and Hughes has a shocking technique.
Tigers of Old said:
Hmmm - it wasn't beyond the realms of possibilty considering 19 wickets had just fallen for 96 runs and SA hadn't even started their second dig when I wrote that. Was always going to be an embarassing defeat for whoever lost.
Good article here from Malcolm Conn. Could not agree more.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia/hes-had-a-good-knock-but-now-its-time-for-former-australia-skipper-ricky-ponting-to-hang-up-his-bat/story-fn2mcu3x-1226193322704
I've been after Ricky's head for a while now much to many's chagrin but whilst criticism of Hughes, Haddin & Johnson are valid, Australia's deepest woes right now are in the senior batting ranks and there is no bigger elephant in the room than the immediate playing future of the 37yr old former champ.
We've seen Marsh step up in Ponting's absence and we've seen Clarke fill the breach in terms of captaincy. This team has won 2 out of it's last 12 tests. Ponting is purely robbing a younger player of opportunity now and it would be selfish to continue. Time to retire ASAP or risk the indignation of being pushed out.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia/hes-had-a-good-knock-but-now-its-time-for-former-australia-skipper-ricky-ponting-to-hang-up-his-bat/story-fn2mcu3x-1226193322704
I've been after Ricky's head for a while now much to many's chagrin but whilst criticism of Hughes, Haddin & Johnson are valid, Australia's deepest woes right now are in the senior batting ranks and there is no bigger elephant in the room than the immediate playing future of the 37yr old former champ.
We've seen Marsh step up in Ponting's absence and we've seen Clarke fill the breach in terms of captaincy. This team has won 2 out of it's last 12 tests. Ponting is purely robbing a younger player of opportunity now and it would be selfish to continue. Time to retire ASAP or risk the indignation of being pushed out.
The player himself is often the last to lose belief. Ponting has every right to continue vying for a spot in the eleven. Selectors are paid to make the call.