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IanG said:
Shame.
The end is nigh now. The Punter of old would have gobbled up a ton there, and made plenty more too.
The end should have been some time ago even if he did score 100 here.
Punter will get a few runs against this NZ attack but really this should be when a younger batsman is getting exposure at test level.
Punter will get a few runs against this NZ attack but really this should be when a younger batsman is getting exposure at test level.
Doesnt really matter in the big picture what Ponting, Haddin and Hussey do against NZ, they are just marking time. The future lies with Wade, Marsh, Cooper, Cowan (possibly) and of course the returning Watson and any other performing state batsman (except for the likes of Katich, Quiney, Rogers, D Hussey, North etc)
Playing against NZ should be about blooding the new 'uns and getting at least 2 more test matches into them. Playing these fading veterans is just setting everyone up for disappointment in upcoming series.
Playing against NZ should be about blooding the new 'uns and getting at least 2 more test matches into them. Playing these fading veterans is just setting everyone up for disappointment in upcoming series.
23.21.159 said:
The tie?
Unless we demolish the Kiwis quickly tomorrow, I can't see a win/loss result in this game.
Tigers of Old said:
Maybe, but I would ask who. No one has done much with the bat so far this domestic season.
TigerForce said:
Gee, on what I saw late this evening in the Kiwis second dig, they will be lucky to make us bat again.
I reckon one of Haddin, Hussey or Ponting will be finished at the end of this summer, a second gone during the Winter series (whover that might be against) and then I suspect the third will be gone next summer.tigertim said:
Ponting looks a shadow of his former glory, but he can still scratch out 60's and 70's. If he plays OK in Hobart, I am tipping him to be the one to survive till next summer as he has a pretty strong record against India in Australia.
Hmmm... http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/cricket/aussie-crickets-green-machine/story-e6frey50-1226211806962
THE excitement of generation next at Brisbane's Gabba reinforces one historical constant: Australian cricket retains an almost unhealthy reliance on New South Wales.
This team has six who play for the state and another, Nathan Lyon, who learnt his trade in Young and Canberra before moving to Adelaide.
Such a lopsided count highlights why many in the wider cricket community have their view of the national game upside down.
Outside NSW there is regular reference to the late David Hookes when he said that every player who receives a baggy blue cap is given a baggy green in a paper bag.
There is a simple answer to this NSW domination: less whingeing from other states and more effort put into producing quality cricketers.
What a joy it was to see debutant James Pattinson bowl the opening over of the summer's first Test against New Zealand. What a welcome sight to see Victoria finally beginning to pull its weight with promising international cricketers.
That was when Merv Hughes and Paul Reiffel teamed up for the last three Tests of the 1993 Ashes tour.
It has been rare of late for Victoria to even have two players in the same Test side.
Two months ago there was none, with Siddle only regaining his place in Sri Lanka because Ryan Harris broke down.
Melbourne may host the highlight of the summer, Test cricket on Boxing Day at the MCG, and house the Cricket Australia offices nearby, but Victoria remains Australia's greatest underachiever when it comes to producing Test players.
But there are plenty of other laggards, with only tiny Tasmania able to claim it is also punching above its weight given a population a 10th the size of Melbourne.
Of the 18 players to score 5000 runs or more for Australia, nine are originally from NSW. This includes Allan Border, who moved to Brisbane, and Adam Gilchrist, who went to Western Australia.
No other state can boast more than two. Victoria's last was Bill Lawry, who finished 40 years ago, and the other was Neil Harvey, who moved to NSW.
Tasmania has Ricky Ponting and David Boon, South Australia Ian and Greg Chappell (before Greg moved to Queensland), Western Australia Justin Langer and Mike Hussey, and Queensland just Matthew Hayden.
NSW also dominates the bowling with seven of the 19 players who have taken 150 wickets or more, including Jeff Thomson, who also moved to Queensland.
Victoria fares better in the bowling with four, including the great Keith Miller, who went to Sydney. WA also has four, including Stuart MacGill, who made his name in Sydney, while Queensland has just two, South Australia one and, bizarrely, New Zealand one. Clarrie Grimmett moved from Wellington to Melbourne and then Adelaide.
And of course there is a quality NSW bowler in almost every other state team in the country.
In sporting parlance, this means that most administrators across the states must lift their game.
THE excitement of generation next at Brisbane's Gabba reinforces one historical constant: Australian cricket retains an almost unhealthy reliance on New South Wales.
This team has six who play for the state and another, Nathan Lyon, who learnt his trade in Young and Canberra before moving to Adelaide.
Such a lopsided count highlights why many in the wider cricket community have their view of the national game upside down.
Outside NSW there is regular reference to the late David Hookes when he said that every player who receives a baggy blue cap is given a baggy green in a paper bag.
There is a simple answer to this NSW domination: less whingeing from other states and more effort put into producing quality cricketers.
What a joy it was to see debutant James Pattinson bowl the opening over of the summer's first Test against New Zealand. What a welcome sight to see Victoria finally beginning to pull its weight with promising international cricketers.
That was when Merv Hughes and Paul Reiffel teamed up for the last three Tests of the 1993 Ashes tour.
It has been rare of late for Victoria to even have two players in the same Test side.
Two months ago there was none, with Siddle only regaining his place in Sri Lanka because Ryan Harris broke down.
Melbourne may host the highlight of the summer, Test cricket on Boxing Day at the MCG, and house the Cricket Australia offices nearby, but Victoria remains Australia's greatest underachiever when it comes to producing Test players.
But there are plenty of other laggards, with only tiny Tasmania able to claim it is also punching above its weight given a population a 10th the size of Melbourne.
Of the 18 players to score 5000 runs or more for Australia, nine are originally from NSW. This includes Allan Border, who moved to Brisbane, and Adam Gilchrist, who went to Western Australia.
No other state can boast more than two. Victoria's last was Bill Lawry, who finished 40 years ago, and the other was Neil Harvey, who moved to NSW.
Tasmania has Ricky Ponting and David Boon, South Australia Ian and Greg Chappell (before Greg moved to Queensland), Western Australia Justin Langer and Mike Hussey, and Queensland just Matthew Hayden.
NSW also dominates the bowling with seven of the 19 players who have taken 150 wickets or more, including Jeff Thomson, who also moved to Queensland.
Victoria fares better in the bowling with four, including the great Keith Miller, who went to Sydney. WA also has four, including Stuart MacGill, who made his name in Sydney, while Queensland has just two, South Australia one and, bizarrely, New Zealand one. Clarrie Grimmett moved from Wellington to Melbourne and then Adelaide.
And of course there is a quality NSW bowler in almost every other state team in the country.
In sporting parlance, this means that most administrators across the states must lift their game.