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You have to wonder at their true motives for refusing to use it. They have to have an "official" reason and if that's "it's not good enough", then OK. But I've spent enough time around sporting institutions to know that they have a truer internal motivation that they don't want known. It must be that they fancy their own chances at umpire intimidation more than the others.

Well, pull your finger out ICC. Surely if every other nation wants it then they can vote it in at ICC level for ALL Tests.

Streak, I consider myself a traditionalist too, but you gotta move with the times. You sound like the Ian Chappells of this world did when they were originally opposed to TV for two-dimensional decisions and neutral umpires.
 
I was there today. The M in MCG could have stood for Mumbai the number of Indians in the crowd and the noise they made when they took a wicket. Didn't look like 70,000 but then plenty never leave the bar. Punter batted well, Cowan too, Clarke looked the pick til he got out. Sids fights hard, credit to him. Yadav is properly slippery. Sharma bowled garbage. Scoreboard didn't show the Hussey replay for two hours.
 
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You have to wonder at their true motives for refusing to use it. They have to have an "official" reason and if that's "it's not good enough", then OK. But I've spent enough time around sporting institutions to know that they have a truer internal motivation that they don't want known. It must be that they fancy their own chances at umpire intimidation more than the others.
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For many years, Australian teams at home got the rub of the green when it came to contentious decisions. Perhaps India figures that its greater experience will hold more sway with the umpires.
 
In those days, everybody got the rub of the green and that was because the umpires weren't neutral. This is why it's all the more mysterious. They must think they are better at the intimidation, even given that the umps are neutral.
 
spook said:
I was there today. The M in MCG could have stood for Mumbai the number of Indians in the crowd and the noise they made when they took a wicket. Didn't look like 70,000 but then plenty never leave the bar. Punter batted well, Cowan too, Clarke looked the pick til he got out. Sids fights hard, credit to him. Yadav is properly slippery. Sharma bowled garbage. Scoreboard didn't show the Hussey replay for two hours.
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I was there as well IMHO, apart from the spell from Zaheer when he took the 2 wickets Sharma was just about the best bowler, quite unlucky. As for Hussey.... can you say karma.
 
Jukes Extended said:
It's the luck of the draw really umps will make mistakes, how about Haddin being plum but given not out?
I don't hear many people bringing that up......sour grapes.
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I understand where you are coming from Jukes, but I think sour grapes is a little harsh.

The benefit of the doubt always goes to the batsman. So Haddin got the rub on that occassion.

Hussey and Cowan were unlucky, although you'd have to wonder what the umpire was thinking on both occassions. If he is not certain the batsman is out, then it should be not out.

In Husseys case, I think the ball may have caught his arm on the way through. Cowan's was just a shocker.
 
Jukes Extended said:
It's the luck of the draw really umps will make mistakes, how about Haddin being plum but given not out?
I don't hear many people bringing that up......sour grapes.
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Its got nothing to do with sour grapes. Today we have the technology to get more decisions right. To ensure that in more cases when players are given out they are actually out and vice versa. How that can be a bad thing is beyond me. Whether it helps India or Australia in this match is irrelevant to the argument.

These tradition arguments are nonsense to me. Why continue a tradition of getting umpiring decisions wrong when we don't have to? It's no different to hawkeye in tennis, which has been fantastic for the game.
 
The ICC have to put their foot down on this one. It's got to be a case of one in all in with the technology. Every other Test playing nation in the world have agreed to use the technology. From the sounds of the noises coming from the Indian camp, this is a decision made by the BCCI, not the Indian players or their coach. The BCCI are trying to flex their muscle and make themselves the focus of everything. This is one fight the ICC have to win or scrap the technology altogether. Having a couple of players get the rough end of the pineapple in this innings I hope the same thing happens to the Indians in their innings and I look forward to hearing the endless whining from them when it does. That's karma.
 
Jukes Extended said:
It's the luck of the draw really umps will make mistakes, how about Haddin being plum but given not out?
I don't hear many people bringing that up......sour grapes.
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Agree with you Jukes. Fair bit of sooking. The decisions will balance out.
 
Haddin being given out would have devastated the Australian innings LMAO.

Australia might've made over 400 with Hussey and Cowan still in.

Anyway,I'm over it.

Indians will get the bad rub of the green too.

Been a great test so far.

So much better than 20/20.
 
Jukes Extended said:
It's the luck of the draw really umps will make mistakes, how about Haddin being plum but given not out?
I don't hear many people bringing that up......sour grapes.
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If Hussey and Cowan were not harshly done by then Haddin probably wouldn't have been in to have had a deciosion go his way.
 
Sintiger said:
You are missing (or ignoring) the point.

It doesn't need to happen, to either side
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True, I don't get the arguments that you get the "good and the bad" decisions or it "happens to both sides" or "dont mess with tradition". If there's a facility available to ensure you get the RIGHT decision then use it. Same for footy when it comes to having an extra goal umpire or having "barcodes" in the goal posts or whatever idea it is that ensures that the right decision is made.
 
I agree that the DRS should be in...no doubt about that,
I don't think India should have a choice.
We either have DRS or we don't.....not somewhere in between.

But it isn't so it's time to move on,
I think that India will get some rough calls so with a bit of luck it will even out.
 
Jukes Extended said:
I agree that the DRS should be in...no doubt about that,
I don't think India should have a choice.
We either have DRS or we don't.....not somewhere in between.

But it isn't so it's time to move on,
I think that India will get some rough calls so with a bit of luck it will even out.
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100% agree again Jukes.
 
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