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PUNT ROAD END | Richmond Tigers Forum
I know it was only the first round of NAB Cup etc but after that performance, I took a reality check and realised just how bad we really are at the moment. I was one of those who shot down anyone that had anything critical to say about TW. I honestly thought he was going to be the next great coach of the Richmond Football Club!! How wrong I was/am. I’ve been living on hope and tainted views. All these training reports we have been receiving and we receive each year, are nothing but a desperate tiger supporter’s view and not the real story.
Let’s have a REALISTIC look at our current list and we will see how far behind the eight ball we really are. Please realise I am looking at the list realistically and not as I have been over the last few years with hope and hype more than anything.
P.Bowden - Below Average disposal/skill. The typical Richmond player, can play some great footy and then be downright awful.
J.Bowden – Disposal can be excellent but also woeful costing us goals Can be a huge player but at the same time cost us dearly
R.Tambling - Below Average disposal. Decision Making is also disappointing. If this bloke is/was touted as the best aboriginal player to come out of the NT what does that make Maurice?? (Could be the next Fiora Pavlich draft fiasco)
B.Deledio - Good disposal/skills, but at times can let himself down immensely. Still yet to make his mark as a genuine star player as everyone has touted him to be. Hasn’t even dominated a quarter let alone an entire game. Have a look at Griffen and could be another draft blunder although not to the extent of Pavlich
D.Meyer - Seems to have the skills and disposal of an A grader but the determination and will of a 5 year old. Could yet be another wasted high draft pick. Something tells me we will never see the best of this bloke until he is playing for SA colours.
A.Pattison - Below Average disposal and if he is being groomed as a CHF god help us. Doesn’t have the body to contest ruck and seems awfully slow. Another draft blunder in my eyes. Can’t see him making a huge impact and at the moment is not AFL standard
N.Foley - Can’t question the guys work ethic but seems that is enough to be a Richmond star in a lot of supporters eyes. Can’t see the point of extracting the ball with such efficiency only to hand it back to the opposition. Too good for VFL but not good enough for AFL.
S.Tuck – See N.Foley. Could be valuable though as a forward.
G.Tivendale – See J.Bowden. Has had a handful of decent games over the last 6 years yet continues to play week in week out. People wonder why he is a whipping and here is your answer. Epitomises the Richmond player. Looks a million dollars when the team is flying or there is no pressure being applied, but once the stakes are high and opponents apply pressure reverts to a local footy player, kicking the ball anywhere, making the wrong decisions, drops head, and chases tail for the rest of the game
M.White – Below Average disposal/skill. Good Speed but doesn’t know how to use it to affect. Not AFL Standard
K.Moore – Below Average disposal/skill. Should have been delisted two seasons ago. Not AFL Standard
D.Jackson – See K.Moore
B.Hartigan – See K.Moore
C.Hyde – See K.Moore
C.Newman – Good disposal/skill. Has been one of our better performers without being super. Does his job but lacks real star qualities. Can’t afford too many in the side at one time.
D.Gaspar – Atrocious disposal skills and that’s being kind. Unfortunately game is past him in regards to his abilities as a defender. Along with A.Kellaway should have gone earlier.
A.Raines – Good speed, guts determination but average disposal and skills. Never going set up a goal coming out of defence, but at least is willing to break the lines and run. Unfortunately most times the ball can end up anywhere.
D.Polo - Poor disposal. Another goer. Great engine and works hard to hit every contest but unfortunately like so many others doesn’t hurt the opposition when he has it.
C.Howat – See D.Polo
A.Krakouer – Good disposal and great skill but doesn’t work anywhere near what he should. Either played in the back pocket or coming out of the backline where he can setup attacks that will hurt opposition. Otherwise MUST be delisted this year.
T.Knobel – Woeful and should never have been recruited. Better of getting someone like Clarke from Adelaide than this bloke.
W.Thursfield – Below Average disposal. Played a handful of games and suddenly became the Full back of the century in some Tiger supporters eyes. Can defend well but again disposal often hurts us.
R.Hall – Woeful. Should have been delisted 3 seasons ago and offers nothing to the side.
J.Schulz. Good disposal. Can’t stay on the pitch long enough to show us he can play. If he has another injury riddled year time to trade or delist him. Has had more than enough time.
N.Brown - The only genuine Superstar the tigers have had for the last 20 years. Must be banging his head that he left the doggies. Could only imagine how potent they would be with this bloke in the side. Can tell by his body language how annoyed he gets by his team-mates each game. Deserves to play finals and a grand final!!! LEGEND
M.Richardson – Had his disposal and body language been better he would have been a genuine superstar of the competition. Still, if blokes had half the endeavour and PASSION for the tigers that this bloke has, we would win every game on will alone. Deserves finals and a grand final, but unfortunately will not see one during his playing days.
M.Coughlan – Woeful. Hard as nails great engine but hardly hurts the opposition with his disposal. Has to be traded at the end of the year while he still holds some value although not much.
C.Hughes – Still early, but again some supporters claiming him as a superstar after a handful of games.
K.Johnson – Below Average. Hard worker who hardly hurts the opposition with his disposal. Luckily Wells hasn’t really taken off!!
G.Polak - May be a good trade but will have to wait and see. Atleast his decision making seemed quite good on Sunday.
L.Mcguane – Below Average. Not AFL standard and never will be. Waste of a pick. Must be delisted at years end.
K.Pettifer – Average. Is a drifter. Can’t play good consistent footy. Drifts in and out of games and another who goes missing when the real pressure is on.
T.Simmonds – One of the better trades we have done. Thank god he was given the ruck responsibilities which allowed him to show his true colours.
J.Reiwoldt – Haven’t seen him play
JON – Haven’t seen enough
T.Casserley. Haven’t seen him play.
A.Collins – See Casserley
D.Connors – See Casserley
C.Peterson - See Casserley
Going through that list, we can see that we are hardly blessed with skilful precise players which is were the game is heading. We are so far behind the likes of West Coast it’s laughable. What is more laughable is the fact that some supporters genuinely expect to play finals footy this year. We are headed for a bottom four finish without a doubt.
On another note here are 4 CRUCIAL mistakes the Tiger hierarchy/Coaching Panels have made in the last 10 years that have/will cripple our club. These decisions have cost the club at least 10 years of advancement, and will hurt even more looking into the future.
1. Appointment of Danny Frawley as senior coach!!!
2. Aaron Fiora chosen over Mathew Pavlich
3. Richard Tambling chosen over Buddy Franklin
4. Terry Wallace chosen over Rodney Eade
Also apologies to Phantom for shooting him down when it came to draft selections. I flamed him every time he questioned certain selections and it seem he was right after all. Going by last couple of drafts, seems he would have been better off as our recruitment manager than what we have.
I know this may irk many supporters after round 1 of nab cup, but that has been our excuse year in year out. We need a massive list make over and a coach who doesn’t make an ideal Marketing/Media Manager. Might be a great innovator in regards to training and game day, but seem to lack a significant game plan, and is out coached too many time for my liking. On Sunday Voss picked out our problem as to why the ball was being taken out of the centre with ease from Geelong. On one centre bounce occasion we actually set up as he had recommended. We won the ball, went forward and kicked a ball. Didn’t do it for the rest of the game which had him and myself perplexed. If a bloke who has just stepped off the field can pick it, why not us.
Yes, I was one who heralded his appointment, and sprayed anyone who thought otherwise. Well, I can at least say I was wrong.
I can only hope that in 10-12 weeks, people are reading this topic and pointing out to me how WRONG my judgement is/was. Let’s hope.
Let’s have a REALISTIC look at our current list and we will see how far behind the eight ball we really are. Please realise I am looking at the list realistically and not as I have been over the last few years with hope and hype more than anything.
P.Bowden - Below Average disposal/skill. The typical Richmond player, can play some great footy and then be downright awful.
J.Bowden – Disposal can be excellent but also woeful costing us goals Can be a huge player but at the same time cost us dearly
R.Tambling - Below Average disposal. Decision Making is also disappointing. If this bloke is/was touted as the best aboriginal player to come out of the NT what does that make Maurice?? (Could be the next Fiora Pavlich draft fiasco)
B.Deledio - Good disposal/skills, but at times can let himself down immensely. Still yet to make his mark as a genuine star player as everyone has touted him to be. Hasn’t even dominated a quarter let alone an entire game. Have a look at Griffen and could be another draft blunder although not to the extent of Pavlich
D.Meyer - Seems to have the skills and disposal of an A grader but the determination and will of a 5 year old. Could yet be another wasted high draft pick. Something tells me we will never see the best of this bloke until he is playing for SA colours.
A.Pattison - Below Average disposal and if he is being groomed as a CHF god help us. Doesn’t have the body to contest ruck and seems awfully slow. Another draft blunder in my eyes. Can’t see him making a huge impact and at the moment is not AFL standard
N.Foley - Can’t question the guys work ethic but seems that is enough to be a Richmond star in a lot of supporters eyes. Can’t see the point of extracting the ball with such efficiency only to hand it back to the opposition. Too good for VFL but not good enough for AFL.
S.Tuck – See N.Foley. Could be valuable though as a forward.
G.Tivendale – See J.Bowden. Has had a handful of decent games over the last 6 years yet continues to play week in week out. People wonder why he is a whipping and here is your answer. Epitomises the Richmond player. Looks a million dollars when the team is flying or there is no pressure being applied, but once the stakes are high and opponents apply pressure reverts to a local footy player, kicking the ball anywhere, making the wrong decisions, drops head, and chases tail for the rest of the game
M.White – Below Average disposal/skill. Good Speed but doesn’t know how to use it to affect. Not AFL Standard
K.Moore – Below Average disposal/skill. Should have been delisted two seasons ago. Not AFL Standard
D.Jackson – See K.Moore
B.Hartigan – See K.Moore
C.Hyde – See K.Moore
C.Newman – Good disposal/skill. Has been one of our better performers without being super. Does his job but lacks real star qualities. Can’t afford too many in the side at one time.
D.Gaspar – Atrocious disposal skills and that’s being kind. Unfortunately game is past him in regards to his abilities as a defender. Along with A.Kellaway should have gone earlier.
A.Raines – Good speed, guts determination but average disposal and skills. Never going set up a goal coming out of defence, but at least is willing to break the lines and run. Unfortunately most times the ball can end up anywhere.
D.Polo - Poor disposal. Another goer. Great engine and works hard to hit every contest but unfortunately like so many others doesn’t hurt the opposition when he has it.
C.Howat – See D.Polo
A.Krakouer – Good disposal and great skill but doesn’t work anywhere near what he should. Either played in the back pocket or coming out of the backline where he can setup attacks that will hurt opposition. Otherwise MUST be delisted this year.
T.Knobel – Woeful and should never have been recruited. Better of getting someone like Clarke from Adelaide than this bloke.
W.Thursfield – Below Average disposal. Played a handful of games and suddenly became the Full back of the century in some Tiger supporters eyes. Can defend well but again disposal often hurts us.
R.Hall – Woeful. Should have been delisted 3 seasons ago and offers nothing to the side.
J.Schulz. Good disposal. Can’t stay on the pitch long enough to show us he can play. If he has another injury riddled year time to trade or delist him. Has had more than enough time.
N.Brown - The only genuine Superstar the tigers have had for the last 20 years. Must be banging his head that he left the doggies. Could only imagine how potent they would be with this bloke in the side. Can tell by his body language how annoyed he gets by his team-mates each game. Deserves to play finals and a grand final!!! LEGEND
M.Richardson – Had his disposal and body language been better he would have been a genuine superstar of the competition. Still, if blokes had half the endeavour and PASSION for the tigers that this bloke has, we would win every game on will alone. Deserves finals and a grand final, but unfortunately will not see one during his playing days.
M.Coughlan – Woeful. Hard as nails great engine but hardly hurts the opposition with his disposal. Has to be traded at the end of the year while he still holds some value although not much.
C.Hughes – Still early, but again some supporters claiming him as a superstar after a handful of games.
K.Johnson – Below Average. Hard worker who hardly hurts the opposition with his disposal. Luckily Wells hasn’t really taken off!!
G.Polak - May be a good trade but will have to wait and see. Atleast his decision making seemed quite good on Sunday.
L.Mcguane – Below Average. Not AFL standard and never will be. Waste of a pick. Must be delisted at years end.
K.Pettifer – Average. Is a drifter. Can’t play good consistent footy. Drifts in and out of games and another who goes missing when the real pressure is on.
T.Simmonds – One of the better trades we have done. Thank god he was given the ruck responsibilities which allowed him to show his true colours.
J.Reiwoldt – Haven’t seen him play
JON – Haven’t seen enough
T.Casserley. Haven’t seen him play.
A.Collins – See Casserley
D.Connors – See Casserley
C.Peterson - See Casserley
Going through that list, we can see that we are hardly blessed with skilful precise players which is were the game is heading. We are so far behind the likes of West Coast it’s laughable. What is more laughable is the fact that some supporters genuinely expect to play finals footy this year. We are headed for a bottom four finish without a doubt.
On another note here are 4 CRUCIAL mistakes the Tiger hierarchy/Coaching Panels have made in the last 10 years that have/will cripple our club. These decisions have cost the club at least 10 years of advancement, and will hurt even more looking into the future.
1. Appointment of Danny Frawley as senior coach!!!
2. Aaron Fiora chosen over Mathew Pavlich
3. Richard Tambling chosen over Buddy Franklin
4. Terry Wallace chosen over Rodney Eade
Also apologies to Phantom for shooting him down when it came to draft selections. I flamed him every time he questioned certain selections and it seem he was right after all. Going by last couple of drafts, seems he would have been better off as our recruitment manager than what we have.
I know this may irk many supporters after round 1 of nab cup, but that has been our excuse year in year out. We need a massive list make over and a coach who doesn’t make an ideal Marketing/Media Manager. Might be a great innovator in regards to training and game day, but seem to lack a significant game plan, and is out coached too many time for my liking. On Sunday Voss picked out our problem as to why the ball was being taken out of the centre with ease from Geelong. On one centre bounce occasion we actually set up as he had recommended. We won the ball, went forward and kicked a ball. Didn’t do it for the rest of the game which had him and myself perplexed. If a bloke who has just stepped off the field can pick it, why not us.
Yes, I was one who heralded his appointment, and sprayed anyone who thought otherwise. Well, I can at least say I was wrong.
I can only hope that in 10-12 weeks, people are reading this topic and pointing out to me how WRONG my judgement is/was. Let’s hope.