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Culture, Mental Toughness & Self Confidence

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I thought this would be quite interesting to most here. I know its long winded but would relate to Football and our club. I believe these 3 aspects has been truly laking at the Tigers and has been for 25 years.

The only time it could have been building was when Northey was our coach for that brief period.

Culture

8 Steps to building a successful culture.

1. Clarify requirements and definitions

• Be sure culture change is what’s needed. Find out what’sdriving the requirement – you might be able to solve theproblem more easily by changing something specificthat doesn’t need people to change their underlyingvalues and beliefs.
• Be specific about definitions. Think about using one ofthe models in this report as a starting point. Make sureeveryone involved means the same thing when they say“culture.”
• Make sure managers know what they’re lettingthemselves in for. Organizational culture is complex,deep-rooted, and will take considerable time and energyto change.
• Be sure there’s commitment from the top.

2. Set realistic objectives• Don’t try and boil the ocean. Think in terms of modifyingaspects of the existing culture rather than trying tochange it completely.

• Allow realistic timeframes. Culture is based on years ofhistory and woven into every aspect of the organization.
• Remember, it’s impossible to control culture completely,but you can influence it.

3. Establish a partnership approach

• Agree how you’ll work together with other functionssuch as HR, marketing, operations and strategy.

• Consider setting up a specific team or working group.

4. Understand your existing culture

• Use a cultural audit to understand what’s drivingpeople’s behaviors.
• Make sure you’re assessing culture (long term, hard tochange) not climate (short term, influenced by recentevents)
• Use techniques designed to get underneath what’shappening “today” and understand the underlying rules guiding behavior.
• Use results to establish those aspects of the culture youwant to modify or re-emphasize. 5. Get leaders on board
• Help leaders understand what needs to change and workthrough what this means in practical terms forthemselves and their teams.
• Be clear about their responsibility for communicationand make them accountable for it.
• Provide training and materials to support them withcommunication.
• Make sure they back up words with action.

6. Help teams interpret what values mean for them

• Culture is about behaviors. Get beyond high-level statements and help people understand how you want them to behave differently by being clear about what values mean for them in practical terms.
• Use interactive sessions and exercises to help employees work through how they will apply the values to real scenarios from day to day.• Make sure values are consistent with your strategy and brand, so people don’t get confused about what’s required of them
.• Recognize and celebrate successes. Build up a body of stories to help people understand what are seen as helpful and un helpful behaviors.

7. Consider the needs of sub-cultures

• National and regional cultures may interpret valuesdifferently and use systems and infrastructures indifferent ways.
• Provide core messages and partner with business unitsto communicate them in ways that are relevant andappropriate for their teams.
• Be clear about the extent to which you want toencourage aspects of a global culture or emphaszeidentification with specific sub-cultures.

7 Go the distance

• Culture change is systemic and takes time – you’ll needpatience and perseverance!
• Use periodic focus groups, interviews or surveys to review progress and understand where you need to do things differently.


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Helen Coley-Smith, Change Communication expert for The Hub EIGHT STEPS TO SUCCESSFUL CULTURE CHANGE:An eight-step model for successful culture

Mental Toughness

By

Dr. Smt. Jolly Ray


Mental toughness is the ability to consistently sustain one’s ideal performance state during adversities in competition. Performing to one's potential requires good technique and mental skills. Ups and downs in performance are often directly traceable to psychological ups and downs. Players who create a special atmosphere within them perform consistently. Mental toughness is learnt, not inherited. The ultimate measure of mental toughness is consistency.

CHARACTERISTICS OF MENTAL TOUGHNESS

The mentally tough competitor is self-motivated and self directed. He/she does not need to be pushed from outside as he is controlled from within. The player is in total control of his emotions. He is positive and realistic about his goals and success. The individual is generally calm and relaxed under pressure situations. The person is also mentally alert, focussed, confident and responsible for his actions. He is ready for action, usually energetic and determined.

Fundamental areas of mental toughness are:

Self-Confidence
Self-Motivation
Negative Energy Control
Positive Energy Control
Attention Control
Visual/Imagery Control
Attitude Control


Self-Confidence: It is a way of feeling. One can develop self-confidence with practice. The key ingredient is belief in self. You develop self-confidence by elevation of self-image, learning to stay calm, goal setting, positive thinking, self discipline and reviewing performance.

Self-Motivation: It is a source of positive energy. It helps to endure pain, discomfort and self-sacrifice. To overcome low self-motivation, set meaningful long-term goals, commit the goals on a training book, keep a daily record, associate with self-motivated players, enjoy the activity.

Negative Energy Control: Controlling negative emotions like fear, anger, envy, frustration and temper. Performing with negative energy results in inconsistency. To overcome negative energy, increase awareness, psycho, regulation, physical exercise and stimulate competitive situations.

Positive Energy Control: It is the ability to become energized with joy, determination and team spirit. It helps players to maintain the required arousal level to achieve peak performance. To overcome low positive energy control, increase awareness, develop enthusiasm, start feeling good and ensure physical fitness.

Attention Control: It is the ability to tune what is important and what is not important (i. e., to disassociate from what is irrelevant). Improve calming and quieting skills, time awareness, get the positive energy flowing and concentration training.

Visual/Imagery Skills: It is process of creating pictures or images in mind (i. e., thinking in pictures) This is one of the most powerful techniques to develop mental toughness as it is the connecting link between the mind and body. To overcome low visual/imagery skills- practice visualization with all the senses, ensure internal calmness, use photographs and start rehearsing mentally in advance.

Attitude Control: It is a reflection of the player's habits of thoughts. The right attitude produces emotional control and right flow of energy. To overcome low attitude control, identify positive and negative attitudes. Positive affirmation reinforces positive attitude, keep records and have a vision or commitment.

PSYCHOLOGICAL CONCEPTS

Acquiring new modes of behavior by assimilating varied changes is a continuous process that occurs throughout the life. In sports the ultimate aim of achieving fine motor skills is to enhance one’s performance. Therefore, to bring in this desirable effect, certain principles are to be borne in mind.

Reinforcement – is any event or response which serves to increase the frequency of the behaviors that preceded its presentation. Positive or negative reinforcement helps or avoids repeating a desirable performance or stopping an undesirable performance. Delayed reinforcements are often less productive.

Motivation – is a process by which an individual is inspired to do something? Motivated condition is essential for effective learning. A need is to be created within the individual.

Feedback – is the knowledge of result which helps to check the performance and make the necessary modification after a self-evaluation.

Individual Differences – pertaining to physical, psychological and socio-cultural differences can affect the learning and performance.

Emotional Arousal – if in optimum level, is the most desirable for performance. Different games require different levels of arousal.

Insight – means sensing intuitively the inner nature of something. In a game situation, it may perceive the situations in a new way, and applying new tactics and strategy.

Information Processing – is collecting the right information that may be any idea, image, fact, knowledge etc. and putting these together for interpreting and responding to incoming stimuli.

Transfer of Training – indicates that an earlier habit influences the performance of later habit. Bilateral transfer occurs when one part of the body facilitates learning by another. Positive effect occurs when similarity in skills is established. Negative effect occurs if the skills have been mastered and if major changes are attempted.

Level of Aspiration – is the level to which one aspires, a standard set by a person by which success or failure can be personally gauged. In sports, choosing a realistic level as a strong motivator makes the learning effective.

Plateau – is a transition stage, which is only a temporary stagnation phase where the rate of improvement in learning is at the minimum. With appropriate corrective measures, this stage can be overcome. The duration of plateau stage varies from person to person.

Mental Practice – with physical activity results in early learning and aids in better performance by chalking out appropriate game strategies.

Self Confidence

The majestic self-confidence of Jonny Wilkinson - or how expectations can make or break your performance

The image of Jonny Wilkinson majestically kicking his way into the history books during last November’s Rugby World Cup final will live long in the memories of English rugby fans. The decisive drop-goal, scored with just seconds of extra time remaining, demonstrated not just immense skill but the confidence of a winner.

It is easy to forget that Wilkinson had failed with three previous attempted drop-goals up to this point in the match. These failures might have dented the confidence of a player with a more brittle temperament, resulting in more tentative and indecisive future actions. But in an interview following the final whistle Wilkinson revealed that, having missed the previous three attempts, he felt he was going to make the fourth one count. The rest, as they say, is history.

This one example encapsulates the importance of confidence and self-belief to the sports performer.

Of course, having high levels of self-confidence is no guarantee of success and will not compensate for lack of skill, but in situations where competitors are evenly matched it can be the crucial determinant.

In research, confidence has been shown to consistently distinguish between highly successful and less successful athletes. Although many people mistakenly assume that confidence reflects performance – ie we become confident once we have performed consistently well – it is becoming increasingly evident that confidence can be established beforehand.

Sport psychologists define self-confidence as the belief that you can successfully perform a desired behaviour

Confident athletes expect success and have a high level of self-belief that appears crucial in determining how far they strive towards their goals. It is largely confidence that determines whether people give up or remain committed to their goals following a series of setbacks.

For the sake of simplicity, we may consider self-confidence as conceptually opposite to cognitive anxiety (negative beliefs and performance worries). Both are related to our beliefs and both, ultimately, influence our performance.

Coaches can often see fluctuations in the balance between these two opposing states reflected in the behaviour of their athletes. While confident athletes are not afraid of making mistakes, often taking calculated risks in order to take charge of a situation, self-doubters often avoid responsibility, becoming over-conservative and paralysed by fear of failure. Think of the football striker who has not scored for a number of successive matches and is riddled with self-doubt. When presented with a half-chance which would usually result in a snap-shot, he may elect to avoid responsibility and pass to a team mate.

According to psychologist Albert Bandura, performers’ situational-specific confidence, or ‘self-efficacy’, is based on four primary sources of information.

The first and most important factor is past performance accomplishments. What we have achieved in training and competition forms the basis of future expectations of success or failure. Repeated success naturally leads to positive expectations of further success, higher motivation and enhanced self-belief.

Unfortunately, the flip side of this principle is that repeated failures can give rise to a downward performance spiral and a ‘snowball effect’ whereby a performer starts to believe that success is unattainable. Of course, such an athlete does not mysteriously lose his or her physical skills and talents, but without confidence in these abilities high-level performance is rarely achieved.

A third way for coaches to help build confidence is through verbal persuasion. By means of careful reasoning, athletes can be shown that other people (ie the coach) have confidence in their abilities and believe they can achieve set goals. Coaches may even use deception to persuade their athletes that goals can be achieved – of which more later. Verbal persuasion can also take the form of ‘self-talk’, whereby the athlete convinces himself that success will follow.


Clearly, confidence is enhanced by good preparation, planning and a sense of optimism. Conversely, negative thinking and pessimism can undermine performance and limit progress. By expecting failure, we set our belief system to a negative channel and start favouring information that is consistent with these beliefs.

During a training session we may have done some things well and struggled with others. When we have a negative mind-set we tend to focus only on the things that went badly, leading to what psychologists call negative self-fulfilling prophecies and psychological barriers.


The fact that expectations influence performance has been demonstrated in controlled experiments and case studies. In medical settings, giving patients a sugar pill (placebo) and telling them it is morphine has been found, in some cases, to produce as much pain relief as the real thing (1).

Deception has been used in similar ways in sporting studies. In one, 24 participants had their arms strength-tested and were then asked to arm-wrestle an opponent (5). Before each match, the researchers deceived both participants into believing that the objectively weaker participant was actually the stronger – and in 10 out of 12 contests, the ‘weakest link’ actually won! Clearly, the outcomes were not predicted by physical strength but by belief.

So how can coaches and athletes use this information to expect success and build confidence? I am not suggesting that coaches should deceive their athletes in pursuit of this goal, as this can backfire and damage trust, but Bandura’s model (see Figure 1) does provide many other answers to this question. Nothing breeds confidence like success (performance accomplishments), so coaches must nurture their athletes by ensuring success in training and competition, which in some cases may mean redefining success or making it more achievable.

Success can be defined in two ways: in relation to others or in relation to an athlete’s own past performance. If a marathon runner, for example, measures success only in terms of objective outcome, coming third may be perceived as failure and so damage confidence. But if the same runner measures success in relation to his own performance and notes that his finish time was over a minute faster than his PB, the perception is quite different. Athletes have more control over performance goals than outcome goals.

During training, coaches may need to work with their athletes on perceived weaknesses. To ensure success and build confidence they might simplify the skill or skills in question. Think about a person who decides she cannot do press-ups after a negative circuit training experience. To build confidence, the instructor may show the participant a simpler form of the activity (eg press-ups on knees) and allow strength (and success) to be built up over the next few weeks. As the athlete gains confidence, the instructor can work towards introducing the full press-up into the circuit. As a series of goals are steadily accomplished, performance and confidence are built.

Simulated practice conditions can also be used to boost confidence by exposing the participant to performance conditions. In this way an athlete can develop confidence from the knowledge that he has overcome problems in practice. Mental preparation via competitive situation imagery is a particularly useful technique.

It is vital for athletes to know that their coaches believe in them. Although coaching often involves correcting mistakes and giving constructive criticism, it is important to give positive feedback and praise where appropriate in order to create a positive pre-competition environment.

Confidence does not always mean you will perform at your best, but it certainly increases the likelihood of reaching your potential. Remember that confidence can be nurtured. Outstanding performers like Jonny Wilkinson are not simply born with confidence; they develop it through hard work and effective training. The start point is challenging yourself to think confidently. If you believe you can win, you become a very difficult person to beat.

Lee Crust- This article was taken from the "Peak Performance newsletter "


Your thoughts would be appreciated.


Waiting
 
Good points and i think there would be something resembling this approach in place, but we can't execute. Why? Don't know. We needed more Gales and Brodericks and Camerons but instead got more Daffys, Campbells and Juricas in the shape of Pettifer, Tivers, Shultz. I HATE to say it, but this is where Claw is spot on. We just don't profile properly.
Plenty have been keen to write of Cogs on this forum but even if the guy was on crutches (as he normally is) I would be playing him, because he has more character in his gammy hamstring than most of our guys have in their whole body. Same goes for Cuz and Cotchin in my opinion. Having these guys back will put the kind of peer pressure on the rest of the guys that just isn't there at the moment and i am SURE we will see the likes of Lids and Bling lift when they have more than just poor old Richo to follow.
Going forward, find more guys like this (with a bit of character) and less little weaklings who can run a fast 40, and I will be happy.
 
Excellent post Waiting.

The values and their meanings that you've posted above should be printed up on big A1 or A2 laminated posters for everyone walking around inside the Punt Road staff areas to see. And everyone should be constantly reinforcing those values.

A few years ago, I created this 4 word line for a group of U14yo boys to focus on when going into cricket finals.

"Focus On Positive Confidence."

Focus - so that it became a primary.
Positive - so it was constructive.
Confidence - self-explanatory.

The boys took that line to a premiership.
 
I wonder what it does to the club when our marquee player, our champion, superstar of the game, lacks so much of self belief and confidence when kicking for goal that he has cost us many, many games. Last weekend was just one. If those 2 misses at the start of the last had been goals, we'd have won.

Game 1, 15 seconds in to the match, we beat the blues out of the centre, kick it to Richo who marks 15 mtrs out and hits the post. In such a high pressure atmosphere, with such a fragile group, what did that do to the side? Conversely, how would they have reacted had he kicked it?

If it was anyone else on the list but Richo so driven by demons, perhaps that lack of confidence wouldn't have cost us so much. But he is still our most important player. And the team is playing with no confidence. Richo's demons have permeated throughout the side.

When your best match winner doesn't believe he can win, what hope the rest?

I love Richo, and I want him to play forever. But after all these years, he still doesn't believe in himself. Neither do his team mates.
 
Good (albeit long) post waiting. I've been thinking about posting a shorter ;D and more specific post for some time.

I've been looking for specific explanations for our poor performance over the last 1-2 seasons, and in particular the type of errors we continually make (skill and decision making), and our disastrous start this year has solidified my belief that our problems are cognitive.

That is, the basic cognitive processes required to perform tasks as basic as kicking and working our who to kick it to, are being disrupted.

What is disrupting the cognitive processes? Your post refers to some of them from "Psychological Concepts" onwards. In particular, self-efficacy and self-confidence.

Importantly, and specifically to the current crop of RFC players, I strongly suspect that the initial cause of poor self-efficacy and confidence in the group is a game plan that the players are not confident of being able to perform. The result is what sports psychologists call "performance inhibition", and as your post in reference to Bandura notes, the effects 'snow-ball'.
 
That was a long post Waiting, I wasn't mentally tough enough, too weak to finish it all, but agreed with what I read.
 
geoffryprettyboy said:
That was a long post Waiting, I wasn't mentally tough enough, too weak to finish it all, but agreed with what I read.

But you had the self confidence to reply publically GPB and if we provide the right culture you will develop that mental toughness. 8)
 
Thanks guys

I had a bit of a laugh considering whats been happening , so thankyou again.

Sorry i know it was long winded. There is so much to write and having studied sports pyschology , been an ex personal trainer , i know first hand those issues that many sportsman face. Look not only sportsman but people like you and i.

Waiting
 
Very good articles actually. Being ex Military and having successfully been selected for Counter Terrorism training, to get to that sort of elite level within the Military means SACRIFICE.

I started working towards my end goal 2 full years out. I wanted to be as fit as I could possibly be, when I did my pre Counter Terror fitness test, my resting pulse rate was 35, even after being physical pushed, my pulse could recover back down into the 60's within a few minutes.

The physical fitness side was just one side of it, its also mental. I did a lot of reading and a lot of research into just what I was committing myself into. The research side proved a lot harder, the SAS etc don't talk openly about how they go about things, being Navy I found a couple of really good people inside that field and they gave me the necessary tips, which I believe gave me a major edge over others competing for limited places.

I reckon the selection course I did was around 40% physical and 60% mental. Its always the mental side of things that challenge you the most, in my case it was always one more step, one more step, just keep going. I can remember being out on a cross country run around North Head in Sydney in some pretty rugged terrain, I took a heavy fall and rolled down a steep hill for around 50 metres or so. My team mates got down to me, I checked my fingers and toes, nothing busted, I was winded, I simply told them to pick me up, which they did and I kept on going and *smile* it hurt, but that's the trick you've gotta keep going.

Believe me, when you are hallucating after no food for 3 days and little water, you marching in heavy kit down a yellow clay road, every footstep is almost like its beyond you, suddenly around the corner is the truck to collect you with a selection staff member sitting on the back. You get to within a metre, he bangs on the metal, the truck moves off up the road for another 1Km, 2Km or 5Km, you've got to keep going because sooner or later you will get on that truck. Sooner if you give up at that stage and at that stage you are within completion of the course. Its amazing just how many people give up within sight of their goal but they just can't take that one step further.

The Richmond Players have access to a Sports Psychologist, I'm beginning to wonder just how good a Psychologist he is, because mentally the playing group appear to be right down, with absolutely no confidence and I doubt they'd be able to beat any Under 16's premiership winning side, the way they are going about playing their game.

Maybe the players don't fully understand the idea's of Sacrifice, Putting in extra time, doing the extra hard yards, do they want success do they want more of the same. To me its seems more of the same, when you've got a Captain saying "relax" its only 4 games so far into the season, its just seems that everyone in the team is along for the ride and that is pretty much it. That indicates to me anyway that the players do not have the necessary pride within themselves to make the necessary sacrifice to do whatever it takes to get up and win on a consistent basis to make the final's.

That means a clean out of the list yet again, young players only, but it also means that the Richmond Board of Management must select a coach, coaching staff, football department staff and staff, that have a track history of success in whatever their chosen field is. Then and only then will the culture within the club being to change.

Until they do this and implement it, then its going to more of the same painful stuff we get to see each weekend on the football field and that is simply not acceptable.
 
Massai said:
The Richmond Players have access to a Sports Psychologist, I'm beginning to wonder just how good a Psychologist he is,

Jeff Bond was the head of sports psychology with the AIS for 22 years, I think he's a head on a stick sitting behind a desk these days.
 
Great post massaitiger.

The players should be taking advantage of all that is offered to them. But will the culture of a football club allow them to be seen working with a psychologist? It would seem to be a sign of weakness by some people. Men are very poor at getting advice.
Another post is talking about Richo and his weakness at kicking.
This has not changed much over his whole career (although he was better last year I think) and I have felt that it a weakness that he has not been challenged and made to work harder on the most important area of the game. He is the talisman of the team and it is a sad commentary on the side that they look to him all the time.
He has gotten better at controlling his disappointment so work has been done there.
 
Great post, read every word.

I was reminded of one player the most while reading that. Richard Tambling. I'm sure he already knows everything on this topic, but if he could just put in into action then he would be a star.

Richard would have used all of these qualities back in U18 days. When introduced to an AFL environment he changed his approach and way of thinking. I wonder if he can learn to adapt his U18 mental qualities to the AFL environment.
 
Just got back from a few drinks with some old service mates. In the course of a "few", discussion got to Richmond and its pathetic efforts to date. Now some of these guys are not AFL, they are Rugby, Soccer etc, but the same thing was said over and over.

No guts, no glory, no guts, no leadership, no discipline, no effort, no sacrifice, no caring, no sharing, no responsibility or accountability, all up a ramsackle unit, that would not last 2 seconds in a battlefield type scenario and thank god no one at Richmond is in the military.

The collective opinion was that a "HARD" person was needed to get the ship (house) back in order. The "HARD" person doesn't even have to have AFL credo, they just have to have had major success at what they have chosen to do in their sporting life thus far. The "HARD" person should also have "HARD" staff, to enforce discipline thoughout the playing list.

No more slackness, no more poor kicking or handball or passing off the ball to an opponent 20 metres in the clear directly in front of goal. Players to do extra hard training sessions on the track, in the gym, out on the "Tan", on the football field (skills). Players to be pushed over and beyond anything that they have experienced before under any previous football coach and if they become too discomfitted, then the psychologist is brought in to find out the problem, is it fixable and if its not, or the player just hasn't got it in them to make the necessary sacrifices, out the door they go.

After a few more, it became apparent that everyone thinks that the Richmond Football Club is being led by a bunch of ruperts (a rupert is a not highly thought of Army Officer), with absolutely no idea, no battleplan for the onfield but they seem to have a grandplan for the off field namely Craigieburn. Perhaps we all felt that maybe over time RFC will cease to exist in the AFL and be retired to the outer backblocks of Melbourne to collect dust and "remember when", just like Fitzroy.

Not a pretty thought, so whoever the RFC Board select they'd better make sure they get it right because with 2 new clubs coming onboard, sooner or later a Melbourne Club will have to make way for the necessary financial backing of those two clubs by the AFL.
 
Massai thanks for that !

I enjoyed reading your post. We have the same mentality the way we think and train. Even though your background is in the military and my fitness background is muay thai , boxing and filipino arts i have often crossed trained using military training concepts (every now and again) just to mix it up.

I am always looking for new things , new ideas to train and improve, never satisfied where i am at. I am a young 43 year old so the way i train and the way i guess you train would make many people say "its all too hard". I guess being on the outside looking in, it appears as if , by way of words , the players are not challenged enough and from the captain to the coach , they just accept the loses and were they are at.

Classic examples of thisare : Coach- we looked at the draw(first three games and would have been happy with 1-3 as we were not expected to beat the Cats and Dogs. Well, what do you expect then? How *smile* weak is that ! Accepting defeat before the game or season commences. Its like Massai you going to war and your general saying to the troops" look we are not expected to win this war, they will be many casaulties, none of you will come home". I know this is taking it a bit far but if confidence is not displayed from the top, well what confidence will the players display. If they are not convinced of the strategies of combat how can they execute the plan?

Captain- Newman coming out after we lost the first 3 games saying to the supporters to " relax". Well how much more relaxed can we be than having only played 2 final series in what 26 years. To me that shows so much about where the players are at. If your leader says relax well we saw how relaxed they were against Carlton and last week against Melbourne.

President- Gary coming out days ago saying it appears the players have "mental issues" and Richo agreeing with that ! I like Richo but i was dissapointed in that comment. I would have liked him to come out and say so much more. Actually to put the heat on his team mates. If your best player has been a 34 year old so far this year god help us when Richo retires.

Anyway we could continue this topic forever........
 
Well said Massai & Waiting. From experience Leysy couldn't agree more with you.

He's lifted 568 ml weights for almost days at a time till he couldn't see nor walk a step ahead. True courage.
 
I see the media are saying that the AXE will be swung at selection today for the Tigers.

Pray tell hopefully Nathan Brown and Troy Simmonds will be dropped, whilst Tuck, Delidio and others get a last warning any slackness this game, you will be dropped and it won't be just for one game.

Time the coaching staff showed some SPINE and set some clear cut goals. If I hear Chris Newman trot out his "relax" lines one more time, then that's it, he should pack up his kitbag as Captain and hand it back to somebody else, I'd settle for Richo as temp Skipper, dummy spits and all, we all know he busts his chops on the field, its time for around 18 others out of the 22 players to do exactly the same.

They lose to North Melbourne, the whole lot of them should be dropped to Coburg, better yet the Tigers may as well forfeit the rest of the season, due to non interest by the players and coaching staff.

I've never run across a bunch of more pathetic, lost, gutless, self interested, undisciplined lot than these clowns that pretend to be Richmond right now.
 
waiting said:
Massai thanks for that !

I enjoyed reading your post. We have the same mentality the way we think and train. Even though your background is in the military and my fitness background is muay thai , boxing and filipino arts i have often crossed trained using military training concepts (every now and again) just to mix it up.

I am always looking for new things , new ideas to train and improve, never satisfied where i am at. I am a young 43 year old so the way i train and the way i guess you train would make many people say "its all too hard". I guess being on the outside looking in, it appears as if , by way of words , the players are not challenged enough and from the captain to the coach , they just accept the loses and were they are at.

Classic examples of thisare : Coach- we looked at the draw(first three games and would have been happy with 1-3 as we were not expected to beat the Cats and Dogs. Well, what do you expect then? How p!ss weak is that ! Accepting defeat before the game or season commences. Its like Massai you going to war and your general saying to the troops" look we are not expected to win this war, they will be many casaulties, none of you will come home". I know this is taking it a bit far but if confidence is not displayed from the top, well what confidence will the players display. If they are not convinced of the strategies of combat how can they execute the plan?

Muay Thai, now that could sort out some of these clowns in about 10 second's I'd reckon. Navy before political correctness got hold of it, used to get all the recruits together for a 3 minute knock down in the boxing ring (protective head and groin gear on). It was dead set bashing, kicking, anything goes for 3 minutes. Ditto in my selection training, except we didn't have the groin gear or gloves, and again anything pretty much went with your bare hands, feet etc but only for 2 minutes. Believe me its a scary thing going into a ring up against a mate that you have to knock down or be belted. It gets the blood rushing and when its all over everyone's sweet, given that there are one or two black eyes, split lips, busted teeth, severe bruising etc.

As for the coaching staff, its now officially "backs against the wall" like the Russians at Stalingrad against the Germans. No choice, we stay and fight, we don't run like chickens, we'll only get slaughtered on the scoreboard, but that would be nothing to what we'll cop from our members/supporters.

There is such a thing called PRIDE, it should be in yourself, with your team, country whatever, but it should be there. If there is NO PRIDE in one's self, there is no belief and we all know what that means LOSER!!!!