currency for next season

[yandb]

by keeping the trading this season to a minimum and developing our younger players in 2006 we will be giving ourselves a good chance to enter next years draft
draft with some very good picks.

next season i belive terry will develop our younger brigade to create some good currency for miller to negotiate some high picks for us next season . currently we don't have players we can put up for high draft picks but next season we will have a good group of third year players who should step up and make their mark and allow us the flexibility of trading a more senior player or one of the younger players who has stepped up.

this is why i belive we are playing it low key this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[theglove3]

Understand where you are coming from yellow and black but don't get fooled by the supposed low key approach.
In GM we have a shrewd operator who is the master of manipulation. Don't worry about his interview on Sen the other day where he claimed not much will happen this year with the trades. I believe GM will snag a big fish next week usurping other clubs. He plays the media like a piano accordion. Coupled with the guile and media smarts of the Plough, you can see this club is on the right track.

Certainly beats the previous path we were on....

"I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT !"

Sorry about that. Couldn't help it!

 

[geoffryprettyboy]

Understand where you are coming from yellow and black but don't get fooled by the supposed low key approach.
In GM we have a shrewd operator who is the master of manipulation. Don't worry about his interview on Sen the other day where he claimed not much

Shrewd operator/master of manipulation is what is observed from the people who envy the bloke.

I reckon the reason why GM 'catches his fish' is because he is an honest business person, tells it how it is, can sell sand to the arabs (maybe that's a bit far fetched), and is very knowledgeable in his field.

 

[Tiger Endevour]

Understand where you are coming from yellow and black but don't get fooled by the supposed low key approach.
In GM we have a shrewd operator who is the master of manipulation. Don't worry about his interview on Sen the other day where he claimed not much

It will be a VERY interesting off season to see what GM comes up with this year seeing it is such a thin draft...In fact it will be what i think a decisive few months for the guy that is held by many as our saviour. Who we get out of this draft will hopefully go a long way to contributing to our list and I only hope that we go for some bigger body players instead of what we have drafted previously.

Shrewd operator/master of manipulation is what is observed from the people who envy the bloke.

I reckon the reason why GM 'catches his fish' is because he is an honest business person, tells it how it is, can sell sand to the arabs (maybe that's a bit far fetched), and is very knowledgeable in his field.

 

[Spirit of Jack]

The Tigers will be desperate to do something in the trade week...it just doesnt mean they can make it happen.

As has been well espoused by Terry, we have a donut list - very few middle aged decent players 22-25. We do have Tuck & Coughlan but that is not enough. Our only A list players, Brown and Richo, are veterans and our greatest potential A list players Deledio and Tambling are babies.

Without alot of judicious trading we will have a glimmer of hope of rising up the ladder in 2007/08, ie hopefully Richo, Brown, Lids and Bling all click together, but realistically no shot at a premiership until 2010.

Miller is going to be active every in trading year, but it doesnt mean he will be able to pull it off, especially with TW's (good) strategy of not trading top picks for players as we have in the past.

 

[bigwow]

by keeping the trading this season to a minimum and developing our younger players in 2006 we will be giving ourselves a good chance to enter  next years draft
draft with some very good picks.

next season i belive terry will develop our younger brigade to create some good currency for miller to negotiate some high picks for us next season . currently we don't have players we can put up for high draft picks but next season we will have a good group of third year players who should step up and make their mark and allow us the flexibility of trading a more senior player or one of the younger players who has stepped up.

this is why i belive we are playing it low key this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can see where you're coming from, but I also can see no point in developing your players, so you can trade them.
If you develop a player successfully, surely you hold onto them and try to develop a side around them, and trade off those who don't fit.

No forward/Right thinking club is going to spend two or three years developing a player, purely so they can trade them for another player or draft pick. For example, wht would Richmond draft Adam Pattison, play him in the seniors for 30-40 games over three years, pay his salary, and the costs associated in developing him to AFL standard, purely to trade him for an early pick, so they can go through the process again. If after the 2-3 years period he is struggling, then trade him and start again.

 

[yandb]

adam pattison is not a good example of the hypothetical i was putting foward ,as we have very little of the tall type player .

it would be more like a group of players that we have an excess of. e.g. gilmore , raines , roach , polo, jackson and meyer . now i'm not sugesting we trade all of these players but at seasons end next year these players will have stepped up and be far better players . they would be in a position to either take over a position of a newman or hyde if they were traded or be good currency themselves.

another area that we have good stocks of are young 190cm defenders . moore , thursfield ,mcguane and limbach admittedly we will need at least two of these to take over from gas and chubba in two years time but this still would give us one to trade

these are just hypotheticals but it would us a chance to improve our list.

 

[bigwow]

Y&B, understand what you meant, I just used Pattison as a hypothetical, to illustrate that priority in drafting kids shouldn't be purely to use them as currency after two or three years development, irrespective of body type.
Players should only be traded when they don't fit a clubs plans, don't have a role to play, or are disenchanted. Then trade them to improve draft positioning in the future.

I doubt a club would ever draft kids with the intention to keep them for 2-3 years then trade them.
Every kid drafted has to be thoguht of as a potential 200 gamer, with the club that first selects them.

 

[tiger in the night]

I can see where you're coming from, but I also can see no point in developing your players, so you can trade them.
If you develop a player successfully, surely you hold onto them and try to develop a side around them, and trade off those who don't fit.

No forward/Right thinking club is going to spend two or three years developing a player, purely so they can trade them for another player or draft pick. For example, wht would Richmond draft Adam Pattison, play him in the seniors for 30-40 games over three years, pay his salary, and the costs associated in developing him to AFL standard, purely to trade him for an early pick, so they can go through the process again. If after the 2-3 years period he is struggling, then trade him and start again.

Yep.

 

[rinso17]

by keeping the trading this season to a minimum and developing our younger players in 2006 we will be giving ourselves a good chance to enter  next years draft
draft with some very good picks.

next season i belive terry will develop our younger brigade to create some good currency for miller to negotiate some high picks for us next season . currently we don't have players we can put up for high draft picks but next season we will have a good group of third year players who should step up and make their mark and allow us the flexibility of trading a more senior player or one of the younger players who has stepped up.

this is why i belive we are playing it low key this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can see where you're coming from, but I also can see no point in developing your players, so you can trade them.
If you develop a player successfully, surely you hold onto them and try to develop a side around them, and trade off those who don't fit.

No forward/Right thinking club is going to spend two or three years developing a player, purely so they can trade them for another player or draft pick. For example, wht would Richmond draft Adam Pattison, play him in the seniors for 30-40 games over three years, pay his salary, and the costs associated in developing him to AFL standard, purely to trade him for an early pick, so they can go through the process again. If after the 2-3 years period he is struggling, then trade him and start again.

Absolutely right Bigwow!l was going to reply that myself.
As for the initial post , what a ludicrous statergy! Taking the seeds from the draft and farming them till they are ripe ,only to take them to market and trading them for more seeds!? Sounds like a SPUD farmers stratergy to me

 

[yandb]

rinso lets use limbach as an example he was around pick 50, after three seasons he has shown promise and has 25 games under his belt . we already have thursfield and moore as our 190cm defenders and mcguane is there as well so we trade him to essendon for pick 20 as he is surplus to requirements .what was our pick 50 now is our pick 20 , our lists have to continue to turn over so if we can put ourselves in strong situations on draft day we have a better chance of getting a stronger list .

 

[rinso17]

rinso lets use limbach as an example he was around pick 50, after three seasons he has shown promise and has 25 games under his belt . we already have thursfield and moore as our 190cm defenders and mcguane is there as well so we trade him to essendon for pick 20 as he is surplus to requirements .what was our pick 50 now is our pick 20 , our lists have to continue to turn over so if we can put ourselves in strong situations on draft day we have a better chance of getting a stronger list .

It sounds so easy when you say it quickly
.A twenty one year old KPP who is showing promise traded for pick 20?
Because we have plenty of them?
Man l dont no what manure your useing to have such a good yeild out of each harvest spud but why not use more manure and swap him for pick one?

 

[1965]

rinso lets use limbach as an example he was around pick 50, after three seasons he has shown promise and has 25 games under his belt . we already have thursfield and moore as our 190cm defenders and mcguane is there as well so we trade him to essendon for pick 20 as he is surplus to requirements .what was our pick 50 now is our pick 20 , our lists have to continue to turn over so if we can put ourselves in strong situations on draft day we have a better chance of getting a stronger list .

It sounds so easy when you say it quickly
.A twenty one year old KPP who is showing promise traded for pick 20?
Because we have plenty of them?
Man l dont no what manure your useing to have such a good yeild out of each harvest spud but why not use more manure and swap him for pick one?

Sounds like something Spud would do.

:hihi

 

[Brettstigers]

Not quite sure where this thread is going. The only thing I am hoping is that GM/TW treat the kids mean. This year after one year with TW the kids got read the riot act, next year we might see a few having to clean out their lockers and get replaced by other seeds. This is a good thing. When a seed refuses to ripen you discard it or give it to another farmer who thinks he can do better. Usually this process does one of two things, the kid wakes up to himself or he doesn't...

To set up this clean-out we require the suspect kids to be given one year contracts. I hope it happens being dropped by a club should never be a surprise. The only players I feel sorry for are the Hilton types, players who have a great attitude and work ethic but either not the ability or a body which is limited by injury.