One of the guys who is in a Tigers e-mail loop with me at work is putting together a one-a-day player critique starting at #1 and working through the player list. It's a pretty good read so I thought I would share it with you.
Part 18 in the series�.
19 - Tim Fleming
Position: Midfielder / Left-Back
Age: 24, turns 25 the day before our Round 2 game against the Doggies.
Height: 182cm
Weight: 81kg
Career Games: 0
Career Goals: 0
Draft History: Drafted selection No 41 in the 2003 draft, our third round pick (which was originally 32 before we traded with Adelaide). Around 48 positions higher in the draft than I expected. Was Rookie listed at Carlton in 2001 then dropped off the list for 2002.
2002 Averages: Didn't play AFL footy last year.
2002 Summary: Spent 2002 with Carlton's VFL team, winning their best and fairest, polled in one game (2 votes) in the Liston medal. Carlton's VFL team didn't make the finals and only one player on their senior list failed to play a senior game, they even upgraded two rookies into their Senior Side. With so few senior listed players playing extended time in their VFL side, it's not that great a rap to win that B&F, better than not winning it I suppose.
Previously: Played at Old Xavs before that, didn't make U18's TAC Cup to my knowledge.
Ratings: I'm not going to rate him here, did put them together, but they're a bit of a guess based on what little I know of him and he's certainly someone I've never taken any notice of. Suffice to say I've got him well down the bottom in pretty much everything.
Strengths: Is regarded as a bit of a "hard-nut" and at 25 has football experience if not AFL level experience. Must be extremely "coachable" - would have to have been one of Britain's "pets" to have got a gig here.
Weaknesses: Everything I've heard indicates a player with limited abilities, ordinary skills, not much leg speed.
Overall: Why?!? Richmond indicated that they were going to run with a smaller list this year (which is poor IMHO) and so they didn't want to recruit young kids who wouldn't have the body to be able to play AFL footy this year, so we went and recruited guys who weren't ready to play AFL footy on talent instead but would have a the body to cope with senior games. Amazing really. To be fair to him I don't really have a lot of first-hand info. I saw a bit of VFL footy, but he never really caught my eye and to be honest wasn't on my radar at all. Could well be an honest battler that may provide us value, but from the perspective of trying to build a premiership winning team I can't understand picking up a 25yo onto the senior list who has never played at this level and a single year on a Rookie List at Carlton in 2001 as a 23yo then losing his place ain't a great resume. I would think he's insurance for a run-with role. I also think he's a very good example why we should reduce the influence of coaches on recruiting decisions of players they have recently been involved with. Hopefully we've only taken him for a single year contract (foolish if we didn't) and he's already on my list for delisting.
What he needs to do?
1) Not injure anyone at training
2) Take the highlighter to the Melways and mark off the grounds Coburg will play at this year.
3) Play good football and make me look like I'm shooting my mouth off with no idea.
Part 18 in the series�.
19 - Tim Fleming
Position: Midfielder / Left-Back
Age: 24, turns 25 the day before our Round 2 game against the Doggies.
Height: 182cm
Weight: 81kg
Career Games: 0
Career Goals: 0
Draft History: Drafted selection No 41 in the 2003 draft, our third round pick (which was originally 32 before we traded with Adelaide). Around 48 positions higher in the draft than I expected. Was Rookie listed at Carlton in 2001 then dropped off the list for 2002.
2002 Averages: Didn't play AFL footy last year.
2002 Summary: Spent 2002 with Carlton's VFL team, winning their best and fairest, polled in one game (2 votes) in the Liston medal. Carlton's VFL team didn't make the finals and only one player on their senior list failed to play a senior game, they even upgraded two rookies into their Senior Side. With so few senior listed players playing extended time in their VFL side, it's not that great a rap to win that B&F, better than not winning it I suppose.
Previously: Played at Old Xavs before that, didn't make U18's TAC Cup to my knowledge.
Ratings: I'm not going to rate him here, did put them together, but they're a bit of a guess based on what little I know of him and he's certainly someone I've never taken any notice of. Suffice to say I've got him well down the bottom in pretty much everything.
Strengths: Is regarded as a bit of a "hard-nut" and at 25 has football experience if not AFL level experience. Must be extremely "coachable" - would have to have been one of Britain's "pets" to have got a gig here.
Weaknesses: Everything I've heard indicates a player with limited abilities, ordinary skills, not much leg speed.
Overall: Why?!? Richmond indicated that they were going to run with a smaller list this year (which is poor IMHO) and so they didn't want to recruit young kids who wouldn't have the body to be able to play AFL footy this year, so we went and recruited guys who weren't ready to play AFL footy on talent instead but would have a the body to cope with senior games. Amazing really. To be fair to him I don't really have a lot of first-hand info. I saw a bit of VFL footy, but he never really caught my eye and to be honest wasn't on my radar at all. Could well be an honest battler that may provide us value, but from the perspective of trying to build a premiership winning team I can't understand picking up a 25yo onto the senior list who has never played at this level and a single year on a Rookie List at Carlton in 2001 as a 23yo then losing his place ain't a great resume. I would think he's insurance for a run-with role. I also think he's a very good example why we should reduce the influence of coaches on recruiting decisions of players they have recently been involved with. Hopefully we've only taken him for a single year contract (foolish if we didn't) and he's already on my list for delisting.
What he needs to do?
1) Not injure anyone at training
2) Take the highlighter to the Melways and mark off the grounds Coburg will play at this year.
3) Play good football and make me look like I'm shooting my mouth off with no idea.
