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Damien Hardwick [Merged]
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I have a bit of a conspiracy theory as to why the club continues to sign the coach way before its necessary... most of the people at the club have been on the same journey with Dimma since he was appointed. playing list aside, there has been minimal change at the club. coaches, list managers, the board hasn't changed massively (apart from the presidency changing hands), even Benny Gale was appointed less than 12 months after Dimma was.
I guess the angle i'm coming from is that maybe they're all a bit too chummy? when you think about it, they are all accountable for the coach. if the coach gets the boot, it suggests they have probably failed in their role as well, which will likely bring about a total cleanout of the club. so by re-signing Dimma early, they're able to justify their own jobs as well. hope that makes sense.
I guess the angle i'm coming from is that maybe they're all a bit too chummy? when you think about it, they are all accountable for the coach. if the coach gets the boot, it suggests they have probably failed in their role as well, which will likely bring about a total cleanout of the club. so by re-signing Dimma early, they're able to justify their own jobs as well. hope that makes sense.
Ian4 said:
Geez...haven't I seen that many times in a previous job I had. It's called favouritism. The Alliance.
Mappa said:
not at all. and i'm not saying I believe my own conspiracy theory... it was just a thought I threw out there. it explains why many of the line coaches have stayed around for so long when many of us have questioned them. I've been critical the last 2 times Dimma got and if it happens again when its not needed, I'll be legit fuming
I think my attitude is going to be that it doesn't really matter what I think because it's 99% certain Dimma will be our Coach for the next 3 seasons or so. ( don't take that as some criticism of those who want to voice concerns because it's not, it's just the way i want to deal with it).
My hope is that we see a more aggressive and confident Dimma willing to back the skills of the team. To me it is pretty simple, we need to score 12-18 points more a game to be a premiership threat and that will come from a more daring game style and selection. The recruiting encourages me.
Despite what many have said here Dimma has shown he can coach on game day. His coaching performance against Port in Adelaide this year and against hawthorn was first rate, we turned up with a game plan that we stuck to and it won us those games. It's when it doesn't work that he falls down imo and that has been mentioned a number of times by a number of people.
My hope is that we see a more aggressive and confident Dimma willing to back the skills of the team. To me it is pretty simple, we need to score 12-18 points more a game to be a premiership threat and that will come from a more daring game style and selection. The recruiting encourages me.
Despite what many have said here Dimma has shown he can coach on game day. His coaching performance against Port in Adelaide this year and against hawthorn was first rate, we turned up with a game plan that we stuck to and it won us those games. It's when it doesn't work that he falls down imo and that has been mentioned a number of times by a number of people.
One year extension into 2017 makes sense. Reality is that if he went after 2016, who is out there to replace him? Probably just an untried assistant.
Sintiger said:
I haven't been too critical of Dimma, but I profess to having some reservations as to his match day strategy. But then again, is it a lack of nous or more the players deviating from the game plan?
It seems like some times he doesn't have a plan B or C or isn't quick enough to identify we're "not on" or make any necessary changes. Perhaps he backs the players in (too much).
With the last couple of years recruiting it does change the team dynamic. It seems like the plan was to get "solid citizens" in first as the building blocks, then a fair change up with the new players brought in as well others as providing some much needed depth.
It will be interesting to see how the match strategy that embraces these players fits in with the current team styles of play.
I reckon there will always be the defence first thinking but will there be much change?
There were some snippets about getting the balance between timing the shifting modes of play right. Hopefully the next transitional phase will add another facet.
As long as the players don't too confused.
One thing I will say though. His next contract (when it's considered) should be about where he can take us, as opposed to where he's taken us from. i.e. It's what he can do, not what he's done.
willo said:
This is the crux of the issue for me.
We had a shocking list when he started. We had to build the foundations and under pin it at the same time.
Sure we haven't achieved in dima's time, but it hasn't been a failure either. We have added some spice to a solid core over the past two seasons. I am happy to see if it pays dividends. We have a opportunity to launch as a serious contender from here despite our finals record. A new coach would surely mean steps backward to go forward. Now is not the time to blink.
ninjahaha said:
How many other coaches would not have won one final after six years at the helm and going into his seventh?
Our list wasn't the train wreck that people suggest when Dimma took over as we had already had two years of good draft picks before he arrived.
Not an excuse but some context is important - compromised drafts saw top 5 picks become top 15picks during critical years of our rebuild.
I disagree about the non achievement. We have achieved. We've gone from being called worse than Fitzroy in it's death throes to making 3 finals series, which wasn't something our previous coaches could do. We need the players to all turn up on the finals, which is something they haven't done as a group in any of the EF's. Dimma does bear some responsibility, because he has coached poorly on each occasion, but it would help if some of the gun players would also fire.ninjahaha said:
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