GREAT another wasted few years , by the time we are smart enough to get rid of dimma lids , jack rance , and chimp will be retired and we are in rebuild mode againTiger Ghost said:
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Yep, past is done n worked through, next questions are top four n finals wins, time for pushing forward is upon us.Carter said:
Sounds like the Board is saying all the way with DH to the end of the line. If he is extended now he will only be sacked if we ever plunge again. Coach for life while he remains capable of top 8 finishes.
yandb said:
List wasn't a train wreck?
15th the season before he took over, no finals since 2001.
Sure its a bout the a future. What can hardwick do now! But he gets the chance to deliver is all some of us are saying. Some think he's been given to long. The joke our club was when he took over, to close to a contender for 3 seasons in a row, buys him and the club more time to deliver on becoming a contender.
Only from there comes the chance at the ultimate success.
Seems a more likely path than sack him at 3-10 in 14, like some have been demanding. Had we done that, I feel we would be talking about breaking back into the 8 as our hopes for next year.
Get into the finals & in come underdone players who have been out with injuries eg Newman Griff & Sheds. One wonders how these high paid coaching & selection panel keep their jobs. Need a guy like Akermanis to take over after DH & Co keep on not keeping on.
But he had to find a way to use them, which is something Wallace didn't do by and large. Deledio had never played much in defence under Wallace, in fact when Rawlings came in and they did a player on player review, one of the things Lids was criticised for was his defensive work. Riewoldt won the Coleman his first year under Hardwick. Edwards was often played out of defence under Wallace (had Wallace stayed I think Edwards would have been ruined as a footballer). Cotchin was injured a lot during Wallace's time with him. Rance was still struggling, he also copped that horrific facial injury in 2009. Vickery's first game was Rawling's first game. King was still struggling as a small defender, it was Hardwick who decided to play him as a small forward. Not bad for a bloke who everyone says can't think out of the box, is afraid to try young players and stuck in his ways.lamb22 said:
Carter said:
Exactly right.
Of course the real worry is Brendan Gale and Dan Richardson still think Hardwick is the man to take us forward.
That is a big worry .If they haven't woken up to Dimma's deficiencies by now then one wonders if they are the right men for the job.
This is the first year in many I feel confident in our list balance and am genuinely excited about what they can achieve.
Separating myself from the hot under the collar humiliation of finals defeats and losses to Melbourne etc I cannot deny he's taken us a long way. Time to take the next step now. I think he finally has the tools to do it with a dynamic list.
The only thing that has ever concerned me about Hardwick is his conservatism but I understand how he got that way with such a limited playing group at a club pulling itself up by the bootstraps from dysfunction. He had little leeway to be any different with debt, supporter expectation and uneven drafts hanging over his head.
He's done wonders but time to consolidate and step up again.
Separating myself from the hot under the collar humiliation of finals defeats and losses to Melbourne etc I cannot deny he's taken us a long way. Time to take the next step now. I think he finally has the tools to do it with a dynamic list.
The only thing that has ever concerned me about Hardwick is his conservatism but I understand how he got that way with such a limited playing group at a club pulling itself up by the bootstraps from dysfunction. He had little leeway to be any different with debt, supporter expectation and uneven drafts hanging over his head.
He's done wonders but time to consolidate and step up again.
ninjahaha said:
The entire list for Dimma's first season {2010} including games played pre and post the appointment of Hardwick is listed below. * denotes players still on the RFC list today {10}.
Player Pre 2010 Post 2010 {RFC Only}
Ben Cousins 253 17
Troy Simmons 190 7
Chris Newman 154 114
Shane Tuck 110 63
Graham Polak 108 3
Brett Deledio* 106 127
Richard Tambling 95 13
Nathan Foley 84 70
Daniel Jackson 69 87
Kelvin Moore 65 22
Luke McGuane 54 51
Matthew White 54 51
Will Thursfield 53 24
Dean Polo 52 4
Mitch Morton 50 21
Shane Edwards* 47 121
Jack Riewoldt* 46 134
Jake King 41 66
Adam Thomson 30 2
Trent Cotchin* 25 128
Robin Nahas 19 64
Tom Hislop 19 8
Angus Graham 18 30
Alex Rance* 15 115
Daniel Connors 10 19
Andrew Collins 10 15
Tyrone Vickery* 9 93
Jayden Post 7 23
Mitchell Farmer 3 28
Andrew Browne 1 11
Dylan Grimes* 1 62
Dustin Martin* 0 131
Ben Griffiths* 0 48
David Astbury* 0 41
Matt Dea 0 31
Troy Taylor 0 4
Jeromey Webberley 0 16
Ben Nason 0 23
Alroy Gilligan 0 0
David Gourdis 0 4
Jamie O’Reilly 0 4
Robert Hicks 0 3
Pat Contin 0 0
Relton Roberts 0 2
Nick Westhoff 0 0
Ben Cousins 253 17
Troy Simmons 190 7
Graham Polak 108 3
Richard Tambling 95 13
Kelvin Moore 65 22
Luke McGuane 54 51
Will Thursfield 53 24
Dean Polo 52 4
Mitch Morton 50 21
Adam Thomson 30 2
Tom Hislop 19 8
Angus Graham 18 30
Daniel Connors 10 19
Andrew Collins 10 15
Jayden Post 7 23
Mitchell Farmer 3 28
Andrew Browne 1 11
Matt Dea 0 31
Troy Taylor 0 4
Jeromey Webberley 0 16
Ben Nason 0 23
Alroy Gilligan 0 0
David Gourdis 0 4
Jamie O’Reilly 0 4
Robert Hicks 0 3
Pat Contin 0 0
Relton Roberts 0 2
Nick Westhoff 0 0
Troy Simmons 190 7
Graham Polak 108 3
Richard Tambling 95 13
Kelvin Moore 65 22
Luke McGuane 54 51
Will Thursfield 53 24
Dean Polo 52 4
Mitch Morton 50 21
Adam Thomson 30 2
Tom Hislop 19 8
Angus Graham 18 30
Daniel Connors 10 19
Andrew Collins 10 15
Jayden Post 7 23
Mitchell Farmer 3 28
Andrew Browne 1 11
Matt Dea 0 31
Troy Taylor 0 4
Jeromey Webberley 0 16
Ben Nason 0 23
Alroy Gilligan 0 0
David Gourdis 0 4
Jamie O’Reilly 0 4
Robert Hicks 0 3
Pat Contin 0 0
Relton Roberts 0 2
Nick Westhoff 0 0
That's fairly ugly.spook said:Ben Cousins 253 17
Troy Simmons 190 7
Graham Polak 108 3
Richard Tambling 95 13
Kelvin Moore 65 22
Luke McGuane 54 51
Will Thursfield 53 24
Dean Polo 52 4
Mitch Morton 50 21
Adam Thomson 30 2
Tom Hislop 19 8
Angus Graham 18 30
Daniel Connors 10 19
Andrew Collins 10 15
Jayden Post 7 23
Mitchell Farmer 3 28
Andrew Browne 1 11
Matt Dea 0 31
Troy Taylor 0 4
Jeromey Webberley 0 16
Ben Nason 0 23
Alroy Gilligan 0 0
David Gourdis 0 4
Jamie O’Reilly 0 4
Robert Hicks 0 3
Pat Contin 0 0
Relton Roberts 0 2
Nick Westhoff 0 0
All gone up a notch and dug deep in our finals losses when the game was up for grabs, if it wasn't for hardwicke foiling them at every turn we would have won all three.
Oh, and lets not forget Donuts, that kid was a gun.
The side that picks him up will be unbeatable.* Which side ended up winning the dog fight for his services? Hawks? Cats? Pies? Dees? what the blue cheats?
*unless coached by another hardwicke.
The side that picks him up will be unbeatable.* Which side ended up winning the dog fight for his services? Hawks? Cats? Pies? Dees? what the blue cheats?
*unless coached by another hardwicke.
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