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Damien Hardwick [Merged]
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Re: Damien Hardwick
Hopefully he stays true to his earlier comments.
When the players stop improving that's when I'll leave or something along those lines.
Hopefully he stays true to his earlier comments.
When the players stop improving that's when I'll leave or something along those lines.
Re: Damien Hardwick
I am increasingly worried he is over-reliant on stats and 'key indicators' (which quickly go out of date) and has no feel for the game. He seems to think that a few silly mistakes at the crux of our problems against Essendon. Against Melb it was goal kicking. Against Hawthorn, Collingwood and GC it was some other problem. Sure, these things might contribute week to week but we have pretty much been the same predictable, slow-yet-panicky, risk-averse, timid rabble all season (except against Greater Witche Shats). This is the real problem.
When a team can play so differently from one year to the next, surely all those key indicators a meaningless. Surely Dimma is just using them as stock standard lines to more easily handle post match questions. Surely...Dimma?
I am increasingly worried he is over-reliant on stats and 'key indicators' (which quickly go out of date) and has no feel for the game. He seems to think that a few silly mistakes at the crux of our problems against Essendon. Against Melb it was goal kicking. Against Hawthorn, Collingwood and GC it was some other problem. Sure, these things might contribute week to week but we have pretty much been the same predictable, slow-yet-panicky, risk-averse, timid rabble all season (except against Greater Witche Shats). This is the real problem.
When a team can play so differently from one year to the next, surely all those key indicators a meaningless. Surely Dimma is just using them as stock standard lines to more easily handle post match questions. Surely...Dimma?
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Re: Damien Hardwick
Dimma got us steady improvement for 3-4 years ending in a finals berth. We all know this year has been rubbish, I think we played above ourselves last year, thought that at the time. We are missing crucial leg speed. I believe in Dimma, maybe he got carried away with last years effort, but I believe he knows how to coach. I really hope he gives young Miles a go this week. Finals are out of the question so why not. Also play Arnott, he will leave if he doesn't get to play at the level. We will turn this around but it may be next year!
Dimma got us steady improvement for 3-4 years ending in a finals berth. We all know this year has been rubbish, I think we played above ourselves last year, thought that at the time. We are missing crucial leg speed. I believe in Dimma, maybe he got carried away with last years effort, but I believe he knows how to coach. I really hope he gives young Miles a go this week. Finals are out of the question so why not. Also play Arnott, he will leave if he doesn't get to play at the level. We will turn this around but it may be next year!
Re: Damien Hardwick
Yeah, someone on pre has that in their signature..
But I'm not holding my breath that it will happen. He also mentioned that he wouldn't play players that couldn't kick.
Talked tough when he was hired, but didn't follow through.
mad_doggy911 said:
Yeah, someone on pre has that in their signature..
But I'm not holding my breath that it will happen. He also mentioned that he wouldn't play players that couldn't kick.
Talked tough when he was hired, but didn't follow through.
Re: Damien Hardwick
Unfortunately he gives the impression of someone who is out of ideas. The stats can only help you to dissect what has already happened I can't see how they inform what you will do? You can't change the stats directly you have to teach and inspire your charges and the stats will change. He speaks as though the stats are in his or the player's control, they aren't. His match-ups and whether he can inspire confidence are where his control lies. If he can't see this he is lost to this club as a useful coach.
martyshire said:
Unfortunately he gives the impression of someone who is out of ideas. The stats can only help you to dissect what has already happened I can't see how they inform what you will do? You can't change the stats directly you have to teach and inspire your charges and the stats will change. He speaks as though the stats are in his or the player's control, they aren't. His match-ups and whether he can inspire confidence are where his control lies. If he can't see this he is lost to this club as a useful coach.
Re: Damien Hardwick
Is there anything Hardwick could say it this point to make us feel any better about the on field malaise at Tigerlandt? If he has a media advisor or the club does the first rule should be "do not mention the bloody stats!". I would like him to say something along the lines of: "I know we have looked bad this year but I have a plan and the players are getting there, stick fat and I will live or die on my ability to get them to come with me", and mean it.
What conerns me most is the forward line and the lack of pressure through the midfield. GWS are the loosest mob in the AFL so they don't count. When we turn the ball over in the 50 our mids allow the opposition to spread and create over-laps all down the ground and through the corridor, it happens too often to be a *smile* up so it must be bad coaching. The reason for the turn overs in forward 50 is very bad structure with our forwards and staccato forward movement from our mids. Freezer needs to get control of this footy department pronto and ask what the hell our forward structure is and why clubs are able to waltz out of our forward line an switch the ball under no pressure? Put real heat on our forward and midfield coaches. Maybe Campbell was a bigger loss than I thought.
Is there anything Hardwick could say it this point to make us feel any better about the on field malaise at Tigerlandt? If he has a media advisor or the club does the first rule should be "do not mention the bloody stats!". I would like him to say something along the lines of: "I know we have looked bad this year but I have a plan and the players are getting there, stick fat and I will live or die on my ability to get them to come with me", and mean it.
What conerns me most is the forward line and the lack of pressure through the midfield. GWS are the loosest mob in the AFL so they don't count. When we turn the ball over in the 50 our mids allow the opposition to spread and create over-laps all down the ground and through the corridor, it happens too often to be a *smile* up so it must be bad coaching. The reason for the turn overs in forward 50 is very bad structure with our forwards and staccato forward movement from our mids. Freezer needs to get control of this footy department pronto and ask what the hell our forward structure is and why clubs are able to waltz out of our forward line an switch the ball under no pressure? Put real heat on our forward and midfield coaches. Maybe Campbell was a bigger loss than I thought.
Re: Damien Hardwick
Let's watch the presser after training on Tuesday. If it's all giggles with the journos....again, then it's obvious we're just going around in circles.
KnightersRevenge said:
Let's watch the presser after training on Tuesday. If it's all giggles with the journos....again, then it's obvious we're just going around in circles.
Re: Damien Hardwick
Maybe, but he's still absolving himself and the players of responsibility with that comment. I don't believe in "over-achieving" or "playing above yourself" or that a team can go within a poofteenth of top four through sleight of hand. The game's far too professional for that.
It's all *smile* to take the heat off the club for its totally inept performance.
bowden4president said:
Maybe, but he's still absolving himself and the players of responsibility with that comment. I don't believe in "over-achieving" or "playing above yourself" or that a team can go within a poofteenth of top four through sleight of hand. The game's far too professional for that.
It's all *smile* to take the heat off the club for its totally inept performance.
Re: Damien Hardwick
Will be as flat as a shizencarters hat ;DTigerhart04 said:Can't wait for Dimma's Dissection
Re: Damien Hardwick
There's nothing he or anyone else at the club could say to make the supporters feel better about nights like Saturday. Damien does look like he's out of ideas, though and that is worrying. It's all turned to poo and no one at the club or in a position to make changes knows why. I think for the rest of the season they need to take a leaf out of John Kennedy Sr's book: 'Don't think! Do!'KnightersRevenge said:
Re: Damien Hardwick
Does any one think that it may not actually be all Harwdwick.
It was documented that Dusty moved in with Connors over the summer and Jake King.
The drafting of Hampson was a mistake, but Richardson and Jackson should take as much responsibility for that.
Jack being dropped from the leadership group (must be more to it)
My gut feeling is:
1. Hampson not the right fit for the club. It became obvious on Saturday when the guys refused to kick to him on the lead. Cymbols! (Also think if the coaching team had realised that Griff has come along we would not have drafted him.
2. There is an issue with the players around Jack. I get the feeling that a few of the guys see him as a bit of a Ackermanis type, great player but off field he can never shut up..
3. Dusty, Jake King for different reasons their off field behavior has also had an effect. Apparently now ellis is great mates with DUsty and hanging around with him outside. Perhaps a second rift with the playing group.
4. Matt White and Nahas while not the best players by a mile have robbed our pace and while i support getting rid of them we needed to replace the pace!
5. Much as I love Newy I recon he is part of that click that got rid of Wallace and may be subverting Hardwick.
6. Losing Leppa and Campbell has also had an effect.
7. Richardson (Dan) clearly is not working well in his job.
All of these factors while not being totally Hardwick's fault have to be solved by him. His future is in his hands.
IMO the biggest problem with our club in the last 30 years has been the players turning into coach killers. We Richmond fans will get on the band wagon to sack a coach as quick as lightning also. Our players have a constant dont care attitude when footy gets hard.
Hardwick has to bite the bullet and get rid of the trouble makers (even if that means losing Dusty and Jack).
Does any one think that it may not actually be all Harwdwick.
It was documented that Dusty moved in with Connors over the summer and Jake King.
The drafting of Hampson was a mistake, but Richardson and Jackson should take as much responsibility for that.
Jack being dropped from the leadership group (must be more to it)
My gut feeling is:
1. Hampson not the right fit for the club. It became obvious on Saturday when the guys refused to kick to him on the lead. Cymbols! (Also think if the coaching team had realised that Griff has come along we would not have drafted him.
2. There is an issue with the players around Jack. I get the feeling that a few of the guys see him as a bit of a Ackermanis type, great player but off field he can never shut up..
3. Dusty, Jake King for different reasons their off field behavior has also had an effect. Apparently now ellis is great mates with DUsty and hanging around with him outside. Perhaps a second rift with the playing group.
4. Matt White and Nahas while not the best players by a mile have robbed our pace and while i support getting rid of them we needed to replace the pace!
5. Much as I love Newy I recon he is part of that click that got rid of Wallace and may be subverting Hardwick.
6. Losing Leppa and Campbell has also had an effect.
7. Richardson (Dan) clearly is not working well in his job.
All of these factors while not being totally Hardwick's fault have to be solved by him. His future is in his hands.
IMO the biggest problem with our club in the last 30 years has been the players turning into coach killers. We Richmond fans will get on the band wagon to sack a coach as quick as lightning also. Our players have a constant dont care attitude when footy gets hard.
Hardwick has to bite the bullet and get rid of the trouble makers (even if that means losing Dusty and Jack).
Re: Damien Hardwick
Another Craig Cameron blunder.
To make things even worse his successor extended his contract by another 2 years on the back of a failed finals campaign.
*smile* we've had some imbecile operators run this clubs footy department.
Another Craig Cameron blunder.
To make things even worse his successor extended his contract by another 2 years on the back of a failed finals campaign.
*smile* we've had some imbecile operators run this clubs footy department.
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