Damn lies and statistics.

[Tiger Opinion]

An interesting stat in the Herald Sun today where they've ranked all the teams based on the number of goals scored this year.

Top three are Bulldogs, Hawks and Geelong; the three best teams so far.

The bottom three are Freo, Melbourne and West Coast; the three worst teams so far.

Meanwhile, we're coming fourth in goals kicked and yet sit 12th on the ladder. I really hope we get some wins on the board soon, because we're having a fantastic year in every stat except for the one that matters most - Win/Loss.

 

[Tigers of Old]

I've been thrilled with our goal scoring options opening up since Richardson moved up the ground.
Finally Terry's 16 goals a game is looking like a real possibility.

I still think we need more goals from our midfielders but Brown, Riewoldt & Morton have been good foils for Richo who's in vintage form.

If we can maintain the way we have been playing, I have little doubt more wins will come soon enough.

 

[Quinhon]

Yes I think we should be higher than our 12th at the moment. It would be interesting to ask the Bulldogs and Dawks who has been their toughest opponent so far. My guess they would say the tigers. I just hope the results of the last 3 games doesnt cause a drop in confidence for the boys because if we can push Geelong we should be able to get a roll along.

 

[seven]

We need a strong making HF, hoping Polak might be able to fill this role.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Interesting stats from the weekend in the HUN today.

We had 131 contested possessions to the Aints 80 yet lost the game. That's almost unheard of.
Instead of losing we should have smashed them.

Alternatively our kicking efficiency was only at 63% as opposed to the Aints 75%.

Can't fault the endevour but our poor disposal is killing us!

 

[an_oxford_man]

Interesting stats from the weekend in the HUN today.

We had 131 contested possessions to the Aints 80 yet lost the game. That's almost unheard of.
Instead of losing we should have smashed them.

Alternatively our kicking efficiency was only at 63% as opposed to the Aints 75%.

Can't fault the endevour but our poor disposal is killing us!

I do think our supposed domination of the contested situations and our poor kicking efficiency are largely due to the "second to the ball" tactics that are often employed against our team of midgets.

 

[Azza]

I do think our supposed domination of the contested situations and our poor kicking efficiency are largely due to the "second to the ball" tactics that are often employed against our team of midgets.

Could you please elaborate Gypsy?

 

[an_oxford_man]

Sure, Azza.

Second to the ball tactics are basically when you allow the player to win the football at ground level, so you can maximise pressure on his disposal when he acquires the football. Basically, let the bloke pick up the footy so you can force him to turn it over. Very effective against small sides.

 

[Azza]

Sure, Azza.

Second to the ball tactics are basically when you allow the player to win the football at ground level, so you can maximise pressure on his disposal when he acquires the football. Basically, let the bloke pick up the footy so you can force him to turn it over. Very effective against small sides.

So the poor kicking efficency is due to pressure from second to the ball tactics? I guess it could also be due to our small players being under pressure in general, not just due to deliberate use of this as a tactic. But without looking for this particularly, I thought a lot of our turn-overs haven't been under pressure. Probably a combination of both unpressured stuff-ups and pressure on our smaller players?

 

[an_oxford_man]

So the poor kicking efficency is due to pressure from second to the ball tactics? I guess it could also be due to our small players being under pressure in general, not just due to deliberate use of this as a tactic. But without looking for this particularly, I thought a lot of our turn-overs haven't been under pressure. Probably a combination of both unpressured stuff-ups and pressure on our smaller players?

I reckon so, Azza.

 

[Big Cat Lover]

Sure, Azza.

Second to the ball tactics are basically when you allow the player to win the football at ground level, so you can maximise pressure on his disposal when he acquires the football. Basically, let the bloke pick up the footy so you can force him to turn it over. Very effective against small sides.

Be very surprised if this is a directive of a coach - an individual player may allow an opposition player to gather a ball at ground level when he knows he has the drop on him but I doubt coaches are instructing players to ever be second to the ball.

 

[an_oxford_man]

You make being second to the ball sound so risky, BCL! Personally, I'd be very surprised if it wasn't spoken about at the elite level.

 

[Big Cat Lover]

You make being second to the ball sound so risky, BCL! Personally, I'd be very surprised if it wasn't spoken about at the elite level.

I think it was the startegy when we played Geelong last year, didn't quite come off

 

[Tigers of Old]

I think it was the startegy when we played Geelong last year, didn't quite come off

lol. :rofl

 

[an_oxford_man]

;D

 

[Tony Braxton-Hicks]

Kel Moore must rate daylight as his toughest opponent in his career.

 

[frickenel]

An interesting stat in the Herald Sun today where they've ranked all the teams based on the number of goals scored this year.

Top three are Bulldogs, Hawks and Geelong; the three best teams so far.

The bottom three are Freo, Melbourne and West Coast; the three worst teams so far.

Meanwhile, we're coming fourth in goals kicked and yet sit 12th on the ladder. I really hope we get some wins on the board soon, because we're having a fantastic year in every stat except for the one that matters most - Win/Loss.

Bear in mind we were basically a coins toss away from being 4 from 7 instead of 2 1/2 from 7which would sit us at about 5th spot on the ladder!