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Re: Daniel Jackson
i agree with them.
both the herald-sun and the richmond website had him in our best.Baloo said:
i agree with them.
Re: Daniel Jackson
It's admirable how hard Jacko tries and he really leads from the front.
The best that can be said is he's an upgrade on Tuck however he just doesn't have the polish unfortunately and his disposal rarely hurts the opposition.
It's admirable how hard Jacko tries and he really leads from the front.
The best that can be said is he's an upgrade on Tuck however he just doesn't have the polish unfortunately and his disposal rarely hurts the opposition.
Re: Daniel Jackson
Can't disagree more with the Jacko bashers tonight.
He was easily in our best three or four, tried his heart out, played excellent shut downs on several of their mids, particularly in the third, and time and again was so hard at it with second and third efforts and not taking a backward step.
He is crucial in our midfield, and while he makes a few too many clangers, agreed, his hardness and experience is vital for us moving forward.
You can bash Gus, Astbury, Edwards, Nahas et al, but credit where it's due - Jackson was better than most in this game.
Can't disagree more with the Jacko bashers tonight.
He was easily in our best three or four, tried his heart out, played excellent shut downs on several of their mids, particularly in the third, and time and again was so hard at it with second and third efforts and not taking a backward step.
He is crucial in our midfield, and while he makes a few too many clangers, agreed, his hardness and experience is vital for us moving forward.
You can bash Gus, Astbury, Edwards, Nahas et al, but credit where it's due - Jackson was better than most in this game.
Re: Daniel Jackson
WTF?
Did any of you not see Swan give Jackson a bath?
Jackson was supposedly running with Swan. I say supposedly because he hardly did anything to stop him.
I like Jackson, but last night he was destroyed by his opponent.
WTF?
Did any of you not see Swan give Jackson a bath?
Jackson was supposedly running with Swan. I say supposedly because he hardly did anything to stop him.
I like Jackson, but last night he was destroyed by his opponent.
Re: Daniel Jackson
Jackson is a weird footballer. He has the physical attributes and has worked himself to become AFL standard but still does some strange things with the ball. What I am liking now is that he doesn't blaze away actually looking for options and delaying disposal.
Jackson is a weird footballer. He has the physical attributes and has worked himself to become AFL standard but still does some strange things with the ball. What I am liking now is that he doesn't blaze away actually looking for options and delaying disposal.
Re: Daniel Jackson
Jackson played well until 3 quarter time. Thought he was in our best 3 up to that point. Went terribly missing in the last though. 1 possession I believe. Also alot of critical errors and only 1 tackle from memory which isn't what we expect from him. Overall though thought he played and linked up well.
Jackson played well until 3 quarter time. Thought he was in our best 3 up to that point. Went terribly missing in the last though. 1 possession I believe. Also alot of critical errors and only 1 tackle from memory which isn't what we expect from him. Overall though thought he played and linked up well.
Re: Daniel Jackson
Was beaten last night but remains one of our most important players, we only started winning when he started to play ok.
If footy was a contest of who could kick the prettiest drop punt, then Dan is the worst player on our team.
However there are a lot of contests in our game, he contest better than any mid on our team than Chimp. Unlike the rest of our midfield he doesn't break out in a allergic rash every time he makes a tackle.
When Jackson played on Swan he got beaten (like everybody else does in the AFL) it was a strange matchup because Swan is too outside for Dan
Was beaten last night but remains one of our most important players, we only started winning when he started to play ok.
If footy was a contest of who could kick the prettiest drop punt, then Dan is the worst player on our team.
However there are a lot of contests in our game, he contest better than any mid on our team than Chimp. Unlike the rest of our midfield he doesn't break out in a allergic rash every time he makes a tackle.
tonemaster said:
When Jackson played on Swan he got beaten (like everybody else does in the AFL) it was a strange matchup because Swan is too outside for Dan
Re: Daniel Jackson
I]ve been saying this for years about this bloke and at the expense of being lambasted again by those fans in here that live simply for player-worshipping.......
Daniel Jackson is one of those total enigma's who play AFL football these days in genuinely not good enough football teams.
Has to be the (I'll try to be as PC as possible here so as not to offend those lovers of this bloke) most "lacking in natural football smarts" AFL player I've seen going around the paddock since [insert your own choice here]
He reminds me of that robotic agent from Get Smart...... Hymie was it ?
Just gets caught far to often in possession, puts team mates under enormous pressure for no reason at all and continually persists with playing on when it would be far more benefical to go back and set the play up.
His kicking and handball skills are just average at best, but he does have what seems a good engine, loves a contest and never shirks an issue, so he at least has something going for him on the grunt side of things.
Let me guess, he probably has a Double Major in Quantum physics and Computer Engineering with a minor in Origami just because he can, right ?
Now I'm sure Daniel is a helluva nice kid and he try's his heart out whenever he pulls on a Richmond guernsey and thats all goo and honourable, but I'd sure as hell like to see soome better decision making on his behalf also, as one of the leaders of this team at present.
This game never was all about "stats" and never will be, regardless of the crap the medidiots would have you believe with this SuperCoach/Fantasy football crap ........... Action was thoroughly and utterly given a "football lesson" on how the game should be played by his opponents this evening and if he's gonna improve, he knows that without having to be told by anybody.
I]ve been saying this for years about this bloke and at the expense of being lambasted again by those fans in here that live simply for player-worshipping.......
Daniel Jackson is one of those total enigma's who play AFL football these days in genuinely not good enough football teams.
Has to be the (I'll try to be as PC as possible here so as not to offend those lovers of this bloke) most "lacking in natural football smarts" AFL player I've seen going around the paddock since [insert your own choice here]
He reminds me of that robotic agent from Get Smart...... Hymie was it ?
Just gets caught far to often in possession, puts team mates under enormous pressure for no reason at all and continually persists with playing on when it would be far more benefical to go back and set the play up.
His kicking and handball skills are just average at best, but he does have what seems a good engine, loves a contest and never shirks an issue, so he at least has something going for him on the grunt side of things.
Let me guess, he probably has a Double Major in Quantum physics and Computer Engineering with a minor in Origami just because he can, right ?
Now I'm sure Daniel is a helluva nice kid and he try's his heart out whenever he pulls on a Richmond guernsey and thats all goo and honourable, but I'd sure as hell like to see soome better decision making on his behalf also, as one of the leaders of this team at present.
This game never was all about "stats" and never will be, regardless of the crap the medidiots would have you believe with this SuperCoach/Fantasy football crap ........... Action was thoroughly and utterly given a "football lesson" on how the game should be played by his opponents this evening and if he's gonna improve, he knows that without having to be told by anybody.
Re: Daniel Jackson
So let me guess this straight. Those on PRE that can see what a vital piece of our midfield Jacko is, and can see when he plays very well, are so called "lovers" or "player worshippers".
Those that refuse to acknowledge any of the good work he does are what ? The High IQ football observers ?
The funniest bit is that Jacko is rated highly by opposition fans, opposition coaches and most in the media. I guess we've all got it completely wrong except for the handful of supposed Richmond supporters who bag him no matter what he does. You guys must be the true wise men of the game.
jackfrost said:
So let me guess this straight. Those on PRE that can see what a vital piece of our midfield Jacko is, and can see when he plays very well, are so called "lovers" or "player worshippers".
Those that refuse to acknowledge any of the good work he does are what ? The High IQ football observers ?
The funniest bit is that Jacko is rated highly by opposition fans, opposition coaches and most in the media. I guess we've all got it completely wrong except for the handful of supposed Richmond supporters who bag him no matter what he does. You guys must be the true wise men of the game.
Re: Daniel Jackson
Now c'mon Baloo, you can't tell me there arent more than just a few in here that idolise ceratin irregardless of what type of performance they give out on the field week in week out, and Jackson is one of those that seems to get high praise on ceratin occasions, whether he has earnt it or not.
Friday was a perfect example of that, he was thrashed by his opponent over 100 minutes ....not for one moment saying he didn't try or didn't put in, he does that every week, doesn't make him the Champion that some in here make him out to be.
Ive said the guy can win his ball, no problems there whatsoever, but if those posessions lead straight to a turnover, what good are they ?...... He gets caught in possession more than any other player in the team simply because he dosn't have that instinct football awareness, sorry, but if you can't see that then your geniunely blocking it out.
He's widely regarded by others for the simple reason that we've had very little in players at all that have earnt the football public's respect and the bloke is a genuine "goer" at least, someone who football observers can relate too, I've said that about him a million times, but if your relying on his type to win you matches every week, that would explain as to why we have the record we do over the last 30 years or so.
I think he'd probably make a good running half back in a decent side, shows no fear, likes the contact and is good when running in a straight line and looking in one direction, but to expect him to play on the likes of a Swan or any teams agile quick small is ridiculous, he just doesn't have the athletic ability to play that role.
Its just what I see when watching the guy Baloo, nothing to do with being "Wise Men" or HQ observers, just call it as I see mate and when the team you've followed and loved for over 50 years has been as bad as this one has been for the past 25 +, I really don't have a lot of time to pretend that 12 goal beatdowns are good things in any way, shape or form and that players are better than they really are, sorry, but thats just how I see things.
Baloo said:
Now c'mon Baloo, you can't tell me there arent more than just a few in here that idolise ceratin irregardless of what type of performance they give out on the field week in week out, and Jackson is one of those that seems to get high praise on ceratin occasions, whether he has earnt it or not.
Friday was a perfect example of that, he was thrashed by his opponent over 100 minutes ....not for one moment saying he didn't try or didn't put in, he does that every week, doesn't make him the Champion that some in here make him out to be.
Ive said the guy can win his ball, no problems there whatsoever, but if those posessions lead straight to a turnover, what good are they ?...... He gets caught in possession more than any other player in the team simply because he dosn't have that instinct football awareness, sorry, but if you can't see that then your geniunely blocking it out.
He's widely regarded by others for the simple reason that we've had very little in players at all that have earnt the football public's respect and the bloke is a genuine "goer" at least, someone who football observers can relate too, I've said that about him a million times, but if your relying on his type to win you matches every week, that would explain as to why we have the record we do over the last 30 years or so.
I think he'd probably make a good running half back in a decent side, shows no fear, likes the contact and is good when running in a straight line and looking in one direction, but to expect him to play on the likes of a Swan or any teams agile quick small is ridiculous, he just doesn't have the athletic ability to play that role.
Its just what I see when watching the guy Baloo, nothing to do with being "Wise Men" or HQ observers, just call it as I see mate and when the team you've followed and loved for over 50 years has been as bad as this one has been for the past 25 +, I really don't have a lot of time to pretend that 12 goal beatdowns are good things in any way, shape or form and that players are better than they really are, sorry, but thats just how I see things.
Re: Daniel Jackson
Dont get to see anything but the actual game here I'm afraid ............ but I'd make this of it Baloo.
Nothing more than a successful coach being diplomatic towards a completely outclassed opposition simply because he is in a position too be and winning opposition supporters over with typical Coach rhetoric so as to not come across as a complete and utter arsewipe, thats what I make of it to be honest mate.
They won in a canter Baloo, 12 goals mate, what about that scoring differential is it that tells you we weren't completely outclassed ?
Not Malthouse or any other Coach in the AFL cares one iota that Richmond are where they are, in fact every other teams supporters LOVE it that we've been down for so long now.............go ask anyone 50 or older who they remember the most of back in their teen years and I bet 9/10 will say those %$#**%@ Richmond supporters that had so much success between '67 and '82, they aren't about to take the foot from the throat and feel any remorse, doesn't work that way.
I agree that Cotchin, Martin, Lids and Jack are capable on any given day to "hurt a team" and NO, I wouldn't include Jacko in that grouping, but therein lies the problem, thats only 4 names that the opposition need cover to ensure a winning gameplan that week and if your a team like Collingwood at present, that is easily achievable.
I simply dont rate Jacko as highly as some in here, nothing more, nothing less, its not like Im saying he doesn't deserve a game, I just don't think he's the gamewinner many consider him to be.
Baloo said:
Dont get to see anything but the actual game here I'm afraid ............ but I'd make this of it Baloo.
Nothing more than a successful coach being diplomatic towards a completely outclassed opposition simply because he is in a position too be and winning opposition supporters over with typical Coach rhetoric so as to not come across as a complete and utter arsewipe, thats what I make of it to be honest mate.
They won in a canter Baloo, 12 goals mate, what about that scoring differential is it that tells you we weren't completely outclassed ?
Not Malthouse or any other Coach in the AFL cares one iota that Richmond are where they are, in fact every other teams supporters LOVE it that we've been down for so long now.............go ask anyone 50 or older who they remember the most of back in their teen years and I bet 9/10 will say those %$#**%@ Richmond supporters that had so much success between '67 and '82, they aren't about to take the foot from the throat and feel any remorse, doesn't work that way.
I agree that Cotchin, Martin, Lids and Jack are capable on any given day to "hurt a team" and NO, I wouldn't include Jacko in that grouping, but therein lies the problem, thats only 4 names that the opposition need cover to ensure a winning gameplan that week and if your a team like Collingwood at present, that is easily achievable.
I simply dont rate Jacko as highly as some in here, nothing more, nothing less, its not like Im saying he doesn't deserve a game, I just don't think he's the gamewinner many consider him to be.