Daniel Jackson threads [Merged]

[Baloo]

Re: Daniel Jackson

You said he got thrashed for 100 amins
You called anyone that disagreed player worshippers or lovers.
The opposition coach mentions 6 players. Jacko is one of them.
Most mesia outlets have Jacko in their best.
PRE voting will probably have him top 6 as well despite there being a faction that refuse to give him votes no matter how he plays.

So, either all the above are player worshippers and lovers of Jacko, or you've got it wrong.

 

[jackfrost]

Re: Daniel Jackson

You said he got thrashed for 100 amins
You called anyone that disagreed player worshippers or lovers.
The opposition coach mentions 6 players. Jacko is one of them.
Most mesia outlets have Jacko in their best.
PRE voting will probably have him top 6 as well despite there being a faction that refuse to give him votes no matter how he plays.

So, either all the above are player worshippers and lovers of Jacko, or you've got it wrong.

Baloo....Ive just been reading through this thread from the start and even you confess to being a "Jackson fanboi" I do believe it was !...correct.

So, it seems to me that anyone who say's anything slightly critical of this bloke is gonna hear from you.

- OK, I'm willing to narrow that embellishment down to ..................... 95 minutes, Fair ?
- So you don't idolise him afterall ?
- Opposition Coach's comments mean ZIP....... ask MM if and where Jackson would play in his present side and see what he has to say.
and to be named among the Best 6 Richmond players in a team beaten by 70 points isn't that great an accomplishment I hate to tell you.

-Same thing in regards to "Media voting" ........they have to name someone, when your team is thrashed and your named in the "Best", its the equivalent of being named the coolest looking Geek in the class.
-Ofcourse PRE voting would ......... most in here only know 3 or 4 players names afterall.....

Mate, go back and re-read my initial post.......the main point I was trying to express about Jacko is I think he lacks in the fundamental football smarts and athleticism dept, have never said the kid can't play a lick like your making it out to be.

That Im doing over in the Angus Graham thread if you'd like to join in ..... :hihi

 

[Baloo]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Your initial post labelled people who don't agree with you player worshippers or lovers. That's the only reason I bothered to respond to your post.

Had you just taken a shot at Jacko, like you always do, I wouldn't have bothered. You're one of those whose preconceived opinions prevent you from seeing any good in a player you've classed as a dud. Fine, you're not alone there, but don't go labelling those that don't agree with you.

 

[Col.E.Kurtz]

Re: Daniel Jackson

This game never was all about "stats" and never will be, regardless of the crap the medidiots would have you believe with this SuperCoach/Fantasy football crap ........... Action was thoroughly and utterly given a "football lesson" on how the game should be played by his opponents this evening and if he's gonna improve, he knows that without having to be told by anybody.

If you ever get a chance to have a beer with anyone in the Collingwood coach staff why don't you try and that theory of yours that stats don't matter, particularly contested ball stats which Jackson excels in

 

[Djevv]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Jackson has become an excellent player in the last 2 years - real surprise packet. Not a silky player in the Ablett mould but a tough clearance and contested ball player in the Jobe Watson mould.

 

[jb03]

Re: Daniel Jackson

PRE voting will probably have him top 6 as well despite there being a faction that refuse to give him votes no matter how he plays.

What faction is that?

 

[Baloo]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Those that never give Jacko a vote no matter how well he plays.

 

[Tigerbob]

Re: Daniel Jackson

He has improved in all facets of his game. Simplier directions and gamplan has helped him, also has got rid of that stupid two meter handpass to a player under more pressure and has a directive to kick long when he gets it. His short kicking is a liability and his foootball smarts under pressure is suspect. But he has improved as I said and is now an important cog in our midfield. Would be in the top three of our B&F if it stopped now.

 

[poppa x]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Jacko's an inside mid.
It's his job to get the pill and dish it off to the outside mids.
When he behaves like the rabbit in the headlights, it's because our outside mids have not made position to receive an effective handball.
It leaves Jacko with few easy options.

Rather than bagging Jacko, we should be looking at the outside blokes - like Edwards et al.

2c.

 

[jb03]

Re: Daniel Jackson

He has improved in all facets of his game. Simplier directions and gamplan has helped him, also has got rid of that stupid two meter handpass to a player under more pressure and has a directive to kick long when he gets it. His short kicking is a liability and his foootball smarts under pressure is suspect. But he has improved as I said and is now an important cog in our midfield. Would be in the top three of our B&F if it stopped now.

Seems a pretty objective view from a faction member.

 

[Joe Lynn Turnip]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Those that never give Jacko a vote no matter how well he plays.

As oppossed to certain posters -admittedly moreso on that "other" board than here- who award him BOG nearly every week. In some people's eyes he only has to successfully negotiate the banner to accumulate votes.

There seems to be a lot more in that catergory IMO.

 

[Rosy]

Re: Daniel Jackson

It's laughable how some wanted Dan out of the team. The comments were very bitter and vitriolic..not to mention ill-informed. No leadership? Dumb? Polo a better option than Dan as a defensive mid? :blah

Amazing thing is he was only 22 or so years old when people were calling for his head. A good lesson that players can develop with time and experience and we shouldn't sit behind our keyboards writing them off too early.

We are a far better team for having Daniel Jackson out there. Thankfully the powers to be didn't listen to some on here.

Keep up the good work Daniel. Proudly sponsored by PRE.

 

[Joe Lynn Turnip]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Polo a better option than Dan as a defensive mid? :blah

Geez, even I've never said that. Jackson is Judd-like compared to Polo.

 

[tigers80]

Re: Daniel Jackson

He has improved in all facets of his game. Simplier directions and gamplan has helped him, also has got rid of that stupid two meter handpass to a player under more pressure and has a directive to kick long when he gets it. His short kicking is a liability and his foootball smarts under pressure is suspect. But he has improved as I said and is now an important cog in our midfield. Would be in the top three of our B&F if it stopped now.

its good to hear that he has been directed
to kick it long, it was those stupid dinky kicks
that always found him out under the previous
coaching setup...
when on song this bloke can roost the ball...

 

[CarnTheTiges]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Jacko's biggest problem these days is that he suffers from white line fever and that can sometimes cause him to do stupid things that get him suspended when he's of far more use to the team on the ground.

 

[HeadandShin]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Enjoying this thread - some very insightful comments on both sides.

I personally like Jacko a lot, but am first to admit that's coloured by his hardness, leadership on the ground, and the impressive way he presents in the media. His skills do at times make me tear my hair out; at others, pleasantly surprised. I do think he's improving and we play better with him around. Encouraged by the thought that an intelligent player of average skills is more likely than a less-intelligent one to recognise his limits and pick the areas where he can improve.

 

[jackfrost]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Your initial post labelled people who don't agree with you player worshippers or lovers. That's the only reason I bothered to respond to your post.

Had you just taken a shot at Jacko, like you always do, I wouldn't have bothered. You're one of those whose preconceived opinions prevent you from seeing any good in a player you've classed as a dud. Fine, you're not alone there, but don't go labelling those that don't agree with you.

Not in the least am I labelling ALL peeps, just those like yourself that can't or refuse to see what our players need to do to improve and become better players, because if you think a player of Jacko's skill level is what is going to lead this Club out of the wilderness then by all means I'd have to question your abilities to subjectively evaluate players.........

Again Ill say this about the guy ........ hard at it, honest type role player at very best.

I noticed you failed to answer my question regarding him getting a game at Collingwood ............Yes or No ?

 

[Brodders17]

Re: Daniel Jackson

I noticed you failed to answer my question regarding him getting a game at Collingwood ............Yes or No ?

he probably failed to answer it because it cant be answered. jackson doesnt play for collingwood so we will never know.

if we asked the same question of collingwood players getting a game for geelong in 2009 how many would you say would have? maxwell? o'brien? shaw? presti? brown? davis? johnson?

would you think a guy delisted by melbourne would get a game for the reigning premiers?

the would player x get a game at club y is one of those stupid unanswerable questions asked as if it proof player x is no good. means nothing.

 

[jackfrost]

Re: Daniel Jackson

If you ever get a chance to have a beer with anyone in the Collingwood coach staff why don't you try and that theory of yours that stats don't matter, particularly contested ball stats which Jackson excels in

My eyes are the only stats I need thanks Colonel.........the most overused word in todays games.

Contested ball ? ...... what does that exactly entail by the way ?

Once upon a time there was nothing BUT contested ball in a 120 minute game of Footy.

The way its played these days its far more a game of "keepen's off", so that contested ball crap is totally overated and is for all those Fantasy football geeks moreso than coaches......... like Malthouse doesn't know what he's looking for in a player and needs "stats" to tell him what he just watched !!... yeah, right.

If he's like so many others in this team that "excel" at so many facets of the game that matter, explain to me how we continue to dwell at the wrong end of the ladder year after year Colonel ?

Why aren't we playing Finals Footy at the least if we have so many that "excel' ?

 

[jackfrost]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Those that never give Jacko a vote no matter how well he plays.

If the bloke played well enough I'd be more than happy to give him a vote, why wouldn't I ?

You act like there's this predetermined mindset among fans who don't fart rainbows about every player that dons a Tiger jersey ....... not even close to the case.

If its Delidio, Cotchin, Martin, or Newman that plays like crap then I'm say so, I don't go into any week with any preconcieved notions about any player performance before it actually happens.

They have a go and play up to their abilities given the circumstances of the game, then thats all good and well, if they go missing and have NO or little impact on the contest, then I'll question why, I really don't see how thats so wrong for any supporter to be.