Daniel Jackson threads [Merged]

[Joe Lynn Turnip]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Jackson is an important player going into the future. Trade him? what rubbish.

Yes what he did today was totally stupid and we are going to miss him. He is our best tagger and does a bloody decent job. He gives his all every week and gets up the noses of the other team. For too long we've played like pussies and its about time we have a player that loves to throw his weight about.

You bunch would nail Jesus Christ to the cross again if you had the chance to.

See, I always knew he was overrated on this board.....now he's being compared to Jesus Christ....

 

[Dyer'ere]

Re: Daniel Jackson

See, I always knew he was overrated on this board.....now he's being compared to Jesus Christ....

Other than playing full back for the Nazareth Thirds little is known of his playing career. Jackson would have captained that side. Badly.

 

[crackajack71]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Trade for whatever we can get.
Cannot afford to have a so called leader continually having brain fades time and again.

Dimma was publicly critical of Jackson of this last year.

I disagree with the calls for Jackson to be traded, maybe removed from the leadership group for his undisciplined behavior. I think he 's got a role to play as a tagger and does it fairly well, has a penetrating kick shows guts and determination and has a bit of mongrel which is something we can do with. Why trade for a high pick or a McMuffin type? What we have with Jackson is a servicable player who probably fits into our salary cap without to much strain.

 

[zippadeee]

Re: Daniel Jackson

This problem could be easily resolved, Instead of playing him as soon as his suspension is up, give him 2 weeks at Coburg.
Sets a good example to others and players like Mitch Norton wont feel they are the only ones getting treated badly.
Simple solution, lets see what the club does...

 

[Tenacious]

Re: Daniel Jackson

This problem could be easily resolved, Instead of playing him as soon as his suspension is up, give him 2 weeks at Coburg.
Sets a good example to others and players like Mitch Norton wont feel they are the only ones getting treated badly.
Simple solution, lets see what the club does...

I'd go along with that - and I've become a fan of Jacko.
Short term pain for long term gain maybe.

 

[Rosy]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Not sure in the sense of sending a needed player back to Coburg. That punishes the team rather than the player. I'm happy for the selection panel to weigh up the pros and cons of each player. If a player is sent back purely because of a 1 week suspension it sets a precedent when other players are suspended though.

 

[zippadeee]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Not sure in the sense of sending a needed player back to Coburg. That punishes the team rather than the player. I'm happy for the selection panel to weigh up the pros and cons of each player. If a player is sent back purely because of a 1 week suspension it sets a precedent when other players are suspended though.

He needs to stop these "cheap shot" reports, especially from a leader of the club, what message is he sending to the others in the side. Send him back and see if he ever does it again.
4th report in 2 years, who does he think he is "David Rhys-jones"

 

[Rosy]

Re: Daniel Jackson

He needs to stop these "cheap shot" reports, especially from a leader of the club, what message is he sending to the others in the side.

You seem to assume Dan playing for Coburg will send a message to the other players. Is that message if they get suspended they automatically go back too?

What message was sent to the team when Richo had to face a 3 ring media circus and was sent back to Coburg? I'd say none. It seemed more to appease others and I felt quite ashamed at how it was handled.

If the powers to be think Dan's suspension warrants a stint in the 2s then fair enough. If they think he's more value in the team and want to address his situation another way then that's also fair enough.

There is plenty for them to weigh up rather than it being a forgone conclusion. I'll accept, not that I'd have any choice anyway, whatever they decide.

 

[lukeanddad]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Some remarkable posts on here.

Jacko is one of our best half dozen - and highly respected by opposition coaches. He does need to be disciplined, so I believe that removal from the Leadership Group for the remainder of the season is a tough enough rebuke. It seems ludicrous that we would want to trade one of our better players...

 

[Gnarley]

Re: Daniel Jackson

The value of Daniel Jackson is that he can dish it out, & RFC need types like him to keep our smaller players protected.

Some of my favourite moments in my time as a supporter include Fat Cat Balme in the '73 GF & Scotty Turner 2nd half '95 2nd semi. I used to love having Robbie McGhie patrolling the backline back in the good old days.

But, I hope Jacko doesn't go all cookoo like Big Mal Brown. Talk about a loose cannon :spin

 

[Tenacious]

Re: Daniel Jackson

You seem to assume Dan playing for Coburg will send a message to the other players. Is that message if they get suspended they automatically go back too?

Not necessarily at all.
But if a player is continually getting suspended e.g. Jacko - then it seems the Tribunal's suspension is not enough.
And this always been the problem with Jacko. Up to now - every silly suspension has been followed by another equally silly suspension.
How best to break that trend?

 

[Rosy]

Re: Daniel Jackson

I don't know how to break the trend Tenacious. Hopefully Dan will find that answer within himself. For all who think he should have had 4 weeks this time there were plenty who thought he was very unfairly done by last year. We shouldn't judge a player on the inconsisency of the tribunal.

My post you quoted was a direct response to zipper's mention of sending a message to the players but you didn't really answer that. What message do you think the team would get if Dan went back to Coburg by courtesy of a one match suspension?

We have a precedent with Richo being sent back for what the club considered inappropriate behaviour. I thought it was farcical and doubt the players got any message from that at all, other than being aware that those in charge at the time were willing to make an example of a player to appease others.

 

[Tenacious]

Re: Daniel Jackson

I don't know how to break the trend Tenacious. Hopefully Dan will find that answer within himself.

Unfortunately his track record is against him. And I don't know how to break the trend either. But I see merit in the suggestion of dropping him for an extra game or two as a possible answer. It could work where clearly nothing worked before.

My post you quoted was a direct response to zipper's mention of sending a message to the players but you didn't really answer that. What message do you think the team would get if Dan went back to Coburg by courtesy of a one match suspension?

I reckon it would send a very salient message i.e. continued stupid behaviour will not be tolerated by this Club.
BTW - in this scenario - he's not getting dropped for this 1 week suspension alone. He'd be getting dropped for a series of repeated dumb acts that cost the team.

 

[Tiger_4_Life]

Re: Daniel Jackson

He hasn't tweeted anything this week, he usually says a few things....must be really hurting.

 

[Hungry4footy]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Is my recollection correct in that the week Richo was dropped, we lost by less than a goal?

Totally agree with Rosy on this in that the only penalty achieved through this would be to penalise the team and potentially cost us a win!

If there is a penalty it must be to Dan alone and possibly be built into a leadership rule about being suspended ie. monetary or community service type of fine.

 

[GoodOne]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Jackson's headbutt suspension last year was ridiculous so we should discount that. This suspension was very silly, probably a bit lucky to get just 1. But has he really been THAT bad over time. He is a physical player and unfortunately in today's game the ods are a physical player is going to get pinged every now and then.

 

[Rosy]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Unfortunately his track record is against him. And I don't know how to break the trend either. But I see merit in the suggestion of dropping him for an extra game or two as a possible answer. It could work where clearly nothing worked before.

The club might differ from that opinion. As GO mentioned one suspension last year certainly raised questions. Most on here thought it was ridiculous and the club actually appealed it, something they rarely do, so they might have thought it unjust too.

Dan is one of a rare breed of intimidating players in our team. Sure he needs to temper his aggression but I'd rather see him continue to make the opposition players hear footsteps rather than turn into a pussy out there.

I hope the club don't give in to knee jerk requests to drop him just to be seen to be making a stance. Fingers crossed we've moved on since the time of the Richo press conference circus.

 

[Sintiger]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Jackson's headbutt suspension last year was ridiculous so we should discount that. This suspension was very silly, probably a bit lucky to get just 1. But has he really been THAT bad over time. He is a physical player and unfortunately in today's game the ods are a physical player is going to get pinged every now and then.

When physical players get pinged for being a bit too hard in the tackle , or late etc then that's ok, it comes with the territory . The thing that annoyed me and probably the Club about the one last Sunday was that it was a stupid needless act that wasn't about being physical at all . It was just plain unnecessary and stupid.
The headbutt was unnecessary as well but i have some sympathy for that one because Brown should have been reported for the hit on Jackson that lead to the scuffle they had.

 

[GoodOne]

Re: Daniel Jackson

it was a stupid needless act that wasn't about being physical at all . It was just plain unnecessary and stupid.

Agree. But interestingly both Rance and McGuane were considered quite stupid as well. Maybe there has been a concerted directive to use a bit more aggression out on the ground thus the already 3 suspensions in just 5 games?

 

[josey]

Re: Daniel Jackson

When blokes play close to the edge, sometimes they overstep the mark.

What would people prefer? That we continue being the side that clubs walk over.

Dan was a bit ordinary, but really I some posters are making a mountain here. Talk of trading him or removing him from the leadership group is ridiculous.