Daniel Jackson threads [Merged]

[Tigers of Old]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Time to stop the Jackson farce. and Tuck is not the answer. If I were in charge both won't get a look in. They've had enough opportunities. Hislop and Grigg should get an extended run in the middle to see if they have what it takes, coz one things for certain, jackson doesn't.

Don't disagree with any of that Harry. Agree Tucky isn't the answer.
Perhaps time to see what Pat Contin brings to as we analyse the list over the back half of the year.

 

[IrockZ]

Re: Daniel Jackson

To me he seems to be a selfish player, many times yesterday he went for shots on goal when there were better opportunites around him, needs to fix this!

I dont see it as selfish, I just think he genuinely beleives he's better than what he really is.

Great post Harry.

 

[jackfrost]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Ling is way better than Jackson.

WOW !!!.........what a slap in the face too the Ranga (Ling that is in this case) that comparison is.

How anyone could compare those 2 as far as footballers goes is scary.

Poor Ol' Hymie Jacko is copping it from pillar to post in here these days, amazing turnaround from a few years ago when it was first suggested he was a very very limited footballer by AFL standards, which was met with tons of abusive responses to those that dared sound critical of his game.

But as much as I think he isn't much chop, I'll bet my bottom $ he DOESN'T get dropped anytime soon.............just a personal opinion, I get the feeling the coaching staff love him (don't ask me why, but it does happen) and also, who do you bring in to replace him ?

I'm with the majority in here ..... its NOT Tucky.

Massive trade bait. Work him into a deal.

Simply put ....YEP !!!

 

[Rantnrave]

Re: Daniel Jackson

doesnt matter how goood at this and that he might be....the golden rule should be "if you cant kick and you consistently cause turn overs"then your out...therefore jacko..,mcguanne and edwards(who i do like) are skating on thin ice..id bring in hislop to play jackos role..he is a tough nut and he can kick to targets which is a massive bonus

 

[Collo]

Re: Daniel Jackson

The comparison isn't based on ability but what they bring to the side. He does what Ling does for Geelong... obviously he does a better job than Jacko but he still is a good player for us, despite what some may think. I'm going to stick fat with Jacko and back him.

 

[jackfrost]

Re: Daniel Jackson

The comparison isn't based on ability but what they bring to the side. He does what Ling does for Geelong... obviously he does a better job than Jacko but he still is a good player for us, despite what some may think. I'm going to stick fat with Jacko and back him.

Good for you Collo, at least he has 2 peeps in his corner then.

Right Rosy !

 

[Big Cat Lover]

Re: Daniel Jackson

But as much as I think he isn't much chop, I'll bet my bottom $ he DOESN'T get dropped anytime soon.............just a personal opinion, I get the feeling the coaching staff love him (don't ask me why, but it does happen) and also, who do you bring in to replace him ?

He is liked by the coaches because he provides a contest, and is one of the few to block, shephard etc and try and clear space for our better mids. He generally tackles well. Unfortunately he isn't doing this very well ATM and he has never been an outstanding tagger. He is slow to make decisions when he has it and his kicking not great. He is one that would be on the fringe of the better midfields. If we could get something for a trade it should be seriously looked at.

 

[Rosy]

Re: Daniel Jackson

He's a dud, he's useless, he's not AFL standard blah, blah, blah...yet he's massive trade bait. :rofl

And oh yeah maybe the coaches love him because they know how he's playing his role as instructed more often than not. He's not the only player who had his colours lowered yesterday....including some far more lauded players. There are some very interesting reactions to the loss on here.

 

[Collo]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Everyone is allowed an opinion. I believe some judgers only see a players worth if they are beautiful kicks, explosive pace etc. all the appealing parts of the game. However, these days in the AFL, you need "jobbers", guys who perform a role. The role is not always seen by us fans (including myself) unless you are in the inner-sanctum. A player like Jackson let himself down yesterday and granted, he hasn't had a great season but still has worth

 

[IrockZ]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Everyone is allowed an opinion. I believe some judgers only see a players worth if they are beautiful kicks, explosive pace etc. all the appealing parts of the game. However, these days in the AFL, you need "jobbers", guys who perform a role. The role is not always seen by us fans (including myself) unless you are in the inner-sanctum. A player like Jackson let himself down yesterday and granted, he hasn't had a great season but still has worth

I've never been a Jackson fan but I know why he gets games. Big bodied, good tackler, does the team things, can shut down a good player etc. This season he has been killed by his opponents and he doesnt offer anything offensively so what's he good for atm? When he was a pure tagger he was ok but then he started to win a bit of ball and I reckon his heads got too big for his ability. I'd play Hislop in his role who can actually win a clearance once in a while.

 

[Dexter]

Re: Daniel Jackson

didn't he have a very limited pre season? might explain to an extent why he is struggling to keep up with opposition players
begs the question though why play him? he is the type that needs to be fully fit and at his best to be of any use..

 

[jackfrost]

Re: Daniel Jackson

He's a dud, he's useless, he's not AFL standard blah, blah, blah...yet he's massive trade bait. :rofl

And oh yeah maybe the coaches love him because they know how he's playing his role as instructed more often than not. He's not the only player who had his colours lowered yesterday....including some far more lauded players. There are some very interesting reactions to the loss on here.

My posts regarding your fav having nothing to do with any one single game Rosy, be it a win, loss or draw, I think your more than aware of my thoughts regarding "your boy Dan".

I wouldn't say he's "massive" trade bait, but we could find some sucker to give up something of value.

He wont be dropped though, so you can sleep well at least knowing that Rose.

 

[Harry]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Jackson is a poor mans Kane Johnson, who was a poor mans average footballer.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Re: Daniel Jackson

He's a dud, he's useless, he's not AFL standard blah, blah, blah...yet he's massive trade bait. :rofl

I'm not expecting a lot for him. Part of a package deal will do.

 

[Streak]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Looking at the Melbourne game only, it is clear that Jacko's game revolves around the other midfielders applying at least some defensive pressure of their own. Jacko plays his best when he has one opponent to worry about and the other opposition midfielders are being kept honest.

It is very hard to do a decent defensive midfield job when the blokes around you are not sticking to their men and providing some contests. The Demons looked like they moved the ball through the middle at will for extended periods yesterday.

 

[Big Cat Lover]

Re: Daniel Jackson

He's a dud, he's useless, he's not AFL standard blah, blah, blah...yet he's massive trade bait. :rofl
And oh yeah maybe the coaches love him because they know how he's playing his role as instructed more often than not. He's not the only player who had his colours lowered yesterday....including some far more lauded players. There are some very interesting reactions to the loss on here.

Rosy, how have you rated his year?
Where does he rank in the below list of mids IYO? I have listed them in what I consider their importance to the club over the next 2-4 years.
1. Cotchin - gun
2. Martin - shotgun
3. Deledio - gun
4. Foley - back to his best is a gun - hope he gets there
5. Conca - potential future gun
6. Grigg - solid citizen, a couple of ?? on his disposal popping up.
7. Nahas - bit of an x-factor. End to end runner who can kick goals. Needs a left foot strategy
8. Jackson - A grade effort, B-C grade results. His lack of football IQ consistently lets him down. Coming into his peak.
9. Edwards - massive gap between his best and worst. Kicking a worry.
10. Hislop - glimpses of talent, body may ultimately let him down. give him a run on the ball and lets make a decision.
11. Helbig - hard at it, made plenty of mistakes but not scared to have a go. May have a future.
12. White - done some good tagging jobs but no tricks footballer with limited scope for improvement
13. Nason - Good running ability but ultimately too small
14. Webberly - haven't sen much of him, but IMO not big enough, not fast enough. What sort of role could he play?
15. Tuck - warrior who 20-30 years ago would have been invaluable

 

[Juffaricho]

Re: Daniel Jackson

The last 2 years he was played a more offensive role in the midfield due to our terrible depth. Now, he is back as a pure big bodied tagger, averaging 20 possies and he's increased his tackles per game average accordingly to 6.5.

I've never been a huge fan of his decision making and skills but I still realize that he is a very difficult player to replace and I am happy to have him on the list. I want guys who can handle the rough and tough stuff when we play finals in a couple of years and I expect him to be there unless we recruit some midfield tanks who can run all day and they develop ridiculously quickly.

 

[Big Cat Lover]

Re: Daniel Jackson

The last 2 years he was played a more offensive role in the midfield due to our terrible depth. Now, he is back as a pure big bodied tagger, averaging 20 possies and he's increased his tackles per game average accordingly to 6.5.
I've never been a huge fan of his decision making and skills but I still realize that he is a very difficult player to replace and I am happy to have him on the list. I want guys who can handle the rough and tough stuff when we play finals in a couple of years and I expect him to be there unless we recruit some midfield tanks who can run all day and they develop ridiculously quickly.

But how is his tagging going Juffa? Reckon it has been poor recently. And he doesn't hurt the other way. Agree his physicality would be difficult to replace and he's a 25yr/100 game player who should be coming into his prime but is it good enough? He should be suited with so much opposition focus on Cotch/Martin/Foley but he hasn't provided much drive recently IMO.

 

[Disco08]

Re: Daniel Jackson

One who can really strengthen the midfield ranks, even if it is a bit of a longshot, is Morton. It's been discussed before but the last few games of last year showed what he's capable of in that type of role.

 

[Leysy Days]

Re: Daniel Jackson

Jackson - The tagger who cant tag.