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Daniel Jackson threads [Merged]
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Re: Daniel Jackson
I have been a defender of Jacko but he is not playing well atm . He is not composed at all when he has the ball . I don't buy this problem with the tacking rules issue .Two of his suspensions have been for brain fades which had nothing to do with aggressive tackling.
3 times in recent weeks he has had important set shots for goal within 40 metres and missed them all . His role is clearances and locking down a key opponent and right now he is doing neither .
I don't expect it to happen but I would swap him for Tuck in the 22 . I still see a role for him when playing well but he is way off his best .
I have been a defender of Jacko but he is not playing well atm . He is not composed at all when he has the ball . I don't buy this problem with the tacking rules issue .Two of his suspensions have been for brain fades which had nothing to do with aggressive tackling.
3 times in recent weeks he has had important set shots for goal within 40 metres and missed them all . His role is clearances and locking down a key opponent and right now he is doing neither .
I don't expect it to happen but I would swap him for Tuck in the 22 . I still see a role for him when playing well but he is way off his best .
Re: Daniel Jackson
Thats it in a nutshell. Boyd, Boak & Moloney have all had BOG or near enough to it games against us in recent weeks when Jackson has been assigned to them.
He gets a game only by default ATM. But as we improve he will need to start quelling his oppoenent because he's not creative enough to get by in a good team if he's not playing that lock down role with a good degree of success.
Sintiger said:
Thats it in a nutshell. Boyd, Boak & Moloney have all had BOG or near enough to it games against us in recent weeks when Jackson has been assigned to them.
He gets a game only by default ATM. But as we improve he will need to start quelling his oppoenent because he's not creative enough to get by in a good team if he's not playing that lock down role with a good degree of success.
Re: Daniel Jackson
yeah. wasnt meant to bag him at all.
the figure on clearance v contested possies has me perplexed. if he was getting clearances uncontested something is seriously amiss in our clearance set-up, though that is prob abvious anyway.
the turnover figure must be a mistake. surely?
i do agree he was BOG.
Big Cat Lover said:
yeah. wasnt meant to bag him at all.
the figure on clearance v contested possies has me perplexed. if he was getting clearances uncontested something is seriously amiss in our clearance set-up, though that is prob abvious anyway.
the turnover figure must be a mistake. surely?
i do agree he was BOG.
Re: Daniel Jackson
I have always wondered why we didn't want Moloney plus pick 16 instead of pick 12 & 16. At the time I assumed that we had a player that we really wanted in the draft, it turned out we got Meyer who has proven to be a dud whereas Moloney was already a decent young player who has developed into an even better senior player now.
Harry said:
I have always wondered why we didn't want Moloney plus pick 16 instead of pick 12 & 16. At the time I assumed that we had a player that we really wanted in the draft, it turned out we got Meyer who has proven to be a dud whereas Moloney was already a decent young player who has developed into an even better senior player now.
Re: Daniel Jackson
The reason we didn't was PR. After a long history of the RFC trading away first round draft picks for mixed (usually disappointing) talent and no future Terry Wallace heroically claimed we would never trade a first round draft pick on his watch. And we applauded him for it.
He couldn't be seen to trade a high pick for a player. But at least we kept the picks that gave us Deledio, Cotchin, Riewoldt and Vickery, and that post-TW we kept the picks for Martin, Griffiths and Conca. Thank Christ for that.
Of course, Terry did go back on his word when he traded pick 19 for Jordan McMahon. Watching him defend that decision and try and weasel out of it by dismissing it as a priority pick after the first round is one of my recent low-lights supporting Richmond. It was so Groundhog Day and was the "tipping point" beyond which his coaching career was doomed.
SAF said:
The reason we didn't was PR. After a long history of the RFC trading away first round draft picks for mixed (usually disappointing) talent and no future Terry Wallace heroically claimed we would never trade a first round draft pick on his watch. And we applauded him for it.
He couldn't be seen to trade a high pick for a player. But at least we kept the picks that gave us Deledio, Cotchin, Riewoldt and Vickery, and that post-TW we kept the picks for Martin, Griffiths and Conca. Thank Christ for that.
Of course, Terry did go back on his word when he traded pick 19 for Jordan McMahon. Watching him defend that decision and try and weasel out of it by dismissing it as a priority pick after the first round is one of my recent low-lights supporting Richmond. It was so Groundhog Day and was the "tipping point" beyond which his coaching career was doomed.
Re: Daniel Jackson
Back to Jackson though. He's in a bit of a slump. Not winning as much ball as usual, and struggling to stop the opposition.
But he still leads the tackle count and remains a valuable player on our list. He'll turn it around. We'd need a quantum leap in improvement before we see the end of Jacko at Richmond IMO.
Back to Jackson though. He's in a bit of a slump. Not winning as much ball as usual, and struggling to stop the opposition.
But he still leads the tackle count and remains a valuable player on our list. He'll turn it around. We'd need a quantum leap in improvement before we see the end of Jacko at Richmond IMO.
Re: Daniel Jackson
I don’t understand what you are saying. We weren’t trading away any draft picks, we were gaining them by trading Ottens to Geelong.
The thing I don’t understand is why we thought it was a better deal to get pick 12 & 16 than to get pick 16 & Maloney for Ottens. At the time Melbourne clearly thought Maloney was worth pick 12 and they have been proven correct.
Hungry said:
I don’t understand what you are saying. We weren’t trading away any draft picks, we were gaining them by trading Ottens to Geelong.
The thing I don’t understand is why we thought it was a better deal to get pick 12 & 16 than to get pick 16 & Maloney for Ottens. At the time Melbourne clearly thought Maloney was worth pick 12 and they have been proven correct.
Re: Daniel Jackson
Good point ;D
What I'm trying to say is at the time the mantra was we needed more high-end picks (maybe Greg Miller and Terry spent too much time reading the bloody supporter forums).
Therefore even giving up the possibility of a high pick for a player was on the nose.
You're correct, in hindsight it's just another in a series of colossal mistakes made by the administration of the day.
Good point ;D
What I'm trying to say is at the time the mantra was we needed more high-end picks (maybe Greg Miller and Terry spent too much time reading the bloody supporter forums).
Therefore even giving up the possibility of a high pick for a player was on the nose.
You're correct, in hindsight it's just another in a series of colossal mistakes made by the administration of the day.
Re: Daniel Jackson
thought it might be worth mentioning lids went with moloney the whole 2nd half, not jackson, he spent the 2nd half predominantly across half forward.
thought it might be worth mentioning lids went with moloney the whole 2nd half, not jackson, he spent the 2nd half predominantly across half forward.
Re: Daniel Jackson
An admission from the coach that Jackson was being flogged.
Brodders17 said:
An admission from the coach that Jackson was being flogged.
Re: Daniel Jackson
damn that Moloney. Miller should've taken him instead of asking for the second late first rounder in the donut deal. Obvious trade was obvious
for that matter Nathan Jones (or Hurn) should be on our list as well.
Both of them and we have a good second midfield to compliment our first.
bloody Miller :frustration :frustration :frustration
Harry said:
damn that Moloney. Miller should've taken him instead of asking for the second late first rounder in the donut deal. Obvious trade was obvious
for that matter Nathan Jones (or Hurn) should be on our list as well.
Both of them and we have a good second midfield to compliment our first.
bloody Miller :frustration :frustration :frustration
Re: Daniel Jackson
possibly, or he wanted to try lids on moloney, or he wanted to try something different. this is a development year remember. im not sure jackson being moved is a definitive admission jackson was being flogged, tho maybe they did see it that way.
out of interest anyone got moloneys quarter by quarter stats? from memory at 1/4 time he had baout 5possies, i think about 13 at 1/2 time and ended with 30.
Tigers of Old said:
possibly, or he wanted to try lids on moloney, or he wanted to try something different. this is a development year remember. im not sure jackson being moved is a definitive admission jackson was being flogged, tho maybe they did see it that way.
out of interest anyone got moloneys quarter by quarter stats? from memory at 1/4 time he had baout 5possies, i think about 13 at 1/2 time and ended with 30.
Re: Daniel Jackson
They will have found out some things useful in terms of our future development.
Brodders17 said:
They will have found out some things useful in terms of our future development.
Re: Daniel Jackson
from memory we demanded 2 1st round picks from the cats.
they reluctantly traded moloney to the dees for the pick. certainly no guarantees moloney would have come anywhere near the tigers at that stage.
evo said:
from memory we demanded 2 1st round picks from the cats.
they reluctantly traded moloney to the dees for the pick. certainly no guarantees moloney would have come anywhere near the tigers at that stage.