Daniel Kerr

[Tigers of Old]

Stop saying he's 24, he turns 26 at some stage next year.

After his 1 year of settling in at the club he'll be turning 27 in his second year with us.

Or we could get a top 10 draft pick in a draft with a strong top 10 who could give us 15 years of service!

Hmmm..good post benny.
That just about seals the deal for me.
Has to be an exceptionally good player to give up a potential 8 seasons from a top ten selection.
Whilst Kerr is indeed exceptional there are too many question marks for mine as said particularly in a year where draft picks will be at a premium.

The only thing that tempts me is thinking about moving Tuck and Sugar out and Kerr in. It's a big carrot.

top 10 draft picks are overated. We took aaron fiora, richard lounder and heaps of thers have been high draft picks for us that have turned out ordinary.

Reckon that they were overrated once but without firm data, I'd imagine the strike zone is getting more accurate with each passing year.

 

[jb03]

Hmmm..good post benny.
That just about seals the deal for me.
Has to be an exceptionally good player to give up a potential 8 seasons from a top ten selection.
Whilst Kerr is indeed exceptional there are too many question marks for mine as said particularly in a year where draft picks will be at a premium.

The only thing that tempts me is thinking about moving Tuck and Sugar out and Kerr in. It's a big carrot.

Reckon that they were overrated once but without firm data, I'd imagine the strike zone is getting more accurate with each passing year.

I'm with you Tooheys, we are far better chasing Cousins who will be a hell of a lot cheaper.

 

[Broadsword95]

Reckon that they were overrated once but without firm data, I'd imagine the strike zone is getting more accurate with each passing year.

That's a very fair point.

 

[Juffaricho]

I don't want any midfielders over 24 being traded for especially ones that have already achieved such great success and come from "stacked" sides. My theory on this is the game is getting so fast and because the requirements on midfielders are to run half a marathon each game that their production can drop off so significantly if they mentally switch off 5%. I would be concerned a midfielder like Kerr would take his money, start planning out his nice new home and "dope growing" facility and after putting in a huge first preseason slowly taper off. Mids can be replaced far easier than KPP's. I would be happy to consider a high draft pick on a key 24-25 year old CHF, FF or CHB but not on a midfielder. I think Carlton will regret giving up Josh Kennedy and the other draft picks (which they turned into Masten and Notte (another developing KPP) for Judd who you can already see does not have the "invincible aura" about him now that he does not have 2 brownlow medalists beside him. Trading for mids from "stacked teams" is a suckers game. Look how good Headland was at Brisbane when their midfield was stacked and what a stuff up Freo made going after him thinking he was a gun. Kerr is great and the midfield would be better but the team as a whole would suffer in 2 seasons. Keep in mind the best way to improve is to get better from your 15th to 22nd players on the field like the Kangas and Collingwood consistently do. To do this you need draft picks or smart trades. Look how Collingwood raped Freo in turning Tarrant into both Medurst AND the #8 pick, smart trading.

 

[Tigermad2005]

Maybe tiver for him :hihi

 

[Tigermad2005]

No polak

 

[tigers#7]

Polak, JON and 2nd rounder.....theyd laugh but thats as far as I'd go.

 

[johnson2richo2003]

If he was 24 then Yes but 26 i think not.
Id rather we chase a Brett Prismal

 

[Leysy Days]

Mids can be replaced far easier than KPP's. I would be happy to consider a high draft pick on a key 24-25 year old CHF, FF or CHB but not on a midfielder.

Dont agree with this, elite or quality mids are just as if not more valuable than key position players. Leysy can run through the premiership winning midfields this decade to show if u like.

Trading for mids from "stacked teams" is a suckers game. Look how good Headland was at Brisbane when their midfield was stacked and what a stuff up Freo made going after him thinking he was a gun. Kerr is great and the midfield would be better but the team as a whole would suffer in 2 seasons.

It is, unless the midfielders you get are the one's driving the success of the "stacked teams". Pretty obvious Headland wasnt the one doing this. Voss or Black however....

Keep in mind the best way to improve is to get better from your 15th to 22nd players on the field like the Kangas and Collingwood consistently do. To do this you need draft picks or smart trades. Look how Collingwood raped Freo in turning Tarrant into both Medurst AND the #8 pick, smart trading.

Not on the same page here either Juffa, Can also give u a list of decidedly average premiership players if you like. There's stacks of em'. Its having enough truely elite players & leaders that drives flag winning sides.

 

[Mac]

You could say he was dreaming AND YOU'D BE RIGHT but put this whole year into Cotchin hoping Rance will get some game time towards the end of the year improvement in Riewoldt Deledio Tambling White Moore Thursfield Edwards etc add a tough nut like Kerr with Foley & Cotchin at centre bounces & good luck to the other sides in winning the clearances you never know. It's not like getting Hudson Houlihan etc etc it's Daniel Kerr considered as good as Judd when he is going change of scene playing in front of big crowds at the MCG could fire him up. How deep is the draft this year? DEEP ENOUGH

It was nice not to get thrashed too badly, but really, we got no where near Hawthorn and Geelong and won't for a couple of years yet. I'm sorry, but Kerr will not make up that difference. The floundering Saints accounted for us in the end too. Don't get me wrong, the boys have been showing plenty of sprirt, but it's delusional to think we are a show at a GF in the next year or even two. If we can get Kerr cheaply - great. But it won't happen. We should be looking to off load some older or lesser players ourselves to be able to get as many early picks over the next 2 years as possible. We can't lose the main focus of the rebuild now. Actually I've changed my mind - even if cheap, don't get Kerr - he will be paid too much compared to the other midfielders that we are trying to bring through. We don't want salary cap pressure to stuff us up. We want to keep the young guns.

 

[Dyer'ere]

different situation with kerr. Judd was out of contract and made it clear he was leaving. If WC didn't trade he'd have ended up in the PSD. and the weagles would have got nothing.
Kerr is contracted beyond 2008 so if the deal's not good enough WC will hang onto him. They have that bargaining chip which they didn't have with Juddy. We would have to give up our first pick, probably trade a player for another top 20 pick and maybe even throw in a sweetener. Is it worth it?

Grumpist, my main position ATM on Kerr's trade value is that if he has no side issues he is a no brainer at #7, JON and Casserley.

But sure the best bid for Judd was 2, 19 and 20, eh? And Kerr is worth much less than that IMO. Less talent. Older. Physical limitations. Colourful past.

What should we pay for him? Nothing unless we know he's straight. Then something like the above.

Our trading should be more focused on profiting ourselves and less on philanthropy towards Perth teams. ;D

 

[TigerMad]

West Coast Players have the drug culture hanging over their heads.

Under the AFL drug system it is not known which players have already been caught.

How can you trade for Kerr, when for all you know he already has two strikes against him for failed drug tests?

Wanting to leave WA and the West Coast has the distinct flavour of running from the past.

 

[IanG]

Grumpist, my main position ATM on Kerr's trade value is that if he has no side issues he is a no brainer at #7, JON and Casserley.

On a completely arms length basis maybe, but that would still be too high a price for us this year.

 

[Phar Ace]

Stop saying he's 24, he turns 26 at some stage next year.

After his 1 year of settling in at the club he'll be turning 27 in his second year with us.

Or we could get a top 10 draft pick in a draft with a strong top 10 who could give us 15 years of service!

Cup half full or empty Benny? You could also say he has 5 seasons, say 100 plus games before he qualifies for the vets list! Then like Harvey could have another 7 years on top of that................. Not all 1st round draft picks are like the Palmers of this world. Some of them stuggle to even get a senior game after a season or three or four