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MD Jazz

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I feel like some of this **** is so shallow. Dangerfield? Apart from jealousy, what is the problem here? Is he really disrespected, or just disliked? Big difference.
Agree huts. Personally he gives me the shits but he's a bit different to the likes of Mundine, Kyrgios, Tomic for mine.

I can see how you can dislike the Fed but how do you disrespect him?
 
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The Big Richo

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I feel like some of this **** is so shallow. Dangerfield? Apart from jealousy, what is the problem here? Is he really disrespected, or just disliked? Big difference.
I think it is the old story in sport, you dislike the opposition for no real reason, especially ones that stand out like Danger. I think most people at any level find they dislike opponents and then one day have a beer with them, someone changes teams or you play on a rep team etc with them and find they are good blokes.

It's really no different to Dustin, opposition supporters tee off on him all the time but the reality for anyone who knows him is he is a polite, shy, humble bloke. Completely different to his on-field persona and the image most people have of him.

There's jerks in every club, the same as everywhere else in life but for the most part most people are ok. It's exactly the reason I always laugh when people talk about what a great 'culture' a club has been.

I've been in lots of (mens) dressing rooms in Australian sport, both amateur and professional and there is one simple truism about them: They are all the same.

Blokes in them talk about women and sex, sport and who did what on the drink. They hang **** on each other and laugh when they win and get cranky when they lose, then that passes and they hang **** on each other and laugh again. If you stood in a room with your eyes closed I'd wager you couldn't guess if you were in an AFL locker room or a country footy shed.

The biggest difference I see between a so-called good and bad culture seems to be how many games you win and lose.
 
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DavidSSS

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Can't say I respect Dangerfield. It is the diving, which is actually worse because he has enough talent not to stoop to such levels. We all know players milk free kicks but did you see the way Danger played it up in the PF - he was proud of having fooled the umpire with his diving, and even prouder to get the 50m (I'll add he didn't milk that one, it was totally the maggot's doing, called a free kick, did not state, nor signal, who it was for, and then paid 50 when Cotch threw the ball to Houli).

Disrespect comes from the way they act, you dive and are proud of it you get disrespect. You want to see disrespect, just look at the way Lynch reacted to him in that Gold Coast v Adelaide game years ago, there is clearly some disrespect on the field.

Plenty of opposition players I respect, Danger ain't one of them.

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Can't say I respect Dangerfield. It is the diving, which is actually worse because he has enough talent not to stoop to such levels. We all know players milk free kicks but did you see the way Danger played it up in the PF - he was proud of having fooled the umpire with his diving, and even prouder to get the 50m (I'll add he didn't milk that one, it was totally the maggot's doing, called a free kick, did not state, nor signal, who it was for, and then paid 50 when Cotch threw the ball to Houli).

Disrespect comes from the way they act, you dive and are proud of it you get disrespect. You want to see disrespect, just look at the way Lynch reacted to him in that Gold Coast v Adelaide game years ago, there is clearly some disrespect on the field.

Plenty of opposition players I respect, Danger ain't one of them.

DS
If you’re being consistent, you’d name 3 of our best players as having been in trouble for diving in recent times. Can’t have it both ways.
 
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The Big Richo

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Can't say I respect Dangerfield. It is the diving, which is actually worse because he has enough talent not to stoop to such levels. We all know players milk free kicks but did you see the way Danger played it up in the PF - he was proud of having fooled the umpire with his diving, and even prouder to get the 50m (I'll add he didn't milk that one, it was totally the maggot's doing, called a free kick, did not state, nor signal, who it was for, and then paid 50 when Cotch threw the ball to Houli).
I think that's a classic example of how dislike of a player becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

That free kick has been discussed more than any other but when you actually look at the incident it was a 50-50 call at worst and in that contest Houli actually stages more than Dangerfield does. (Hence he assumes he has the free). Add to that the fact that is was a free that players try to draw all the time, no one more than Jack Riewoldt and in the staging Olympics it wouldn't have even qualified for the final and all your are left with is it being Dangerfield.

I'd wager that if it was another Geelong player the incident would have got a passing mention and be forgotten.
 
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antman

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I think that's a classic example of how dislike of a player becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

That free kick has been discussed more than any other but when you actually look at the incident it was a 50-50 call at worst and in that contest Houli actually stages more than Dangerfield does. (Hence he assumes he has the free). Add to that the fact that is was a free that players try to draw all the time, no one more than Jack Riewoldt and in the staging Olympics it wouldn't have even qualified for the final and all your are left with is it being Dangerfield.

I'd wager that if it was another Geelong player the incident would have got a passing mention and be forgotten.
I'd agree with all of that. It was compounded by the 50 which was just gross incompetence from Razor Ray.

I disrespect Dangerfield, mainly because of attitude, which may not be fair as I've never met him. But he comes across as selfish, grandstanding on the interchange with injury severity, mouthing off but not backing it up. He's a gun player, but his disposal and goal shooting is poor. The banter between him and Jenkins about premierships before the 17 GF. All this is perception, fair or not who knows.

I loved the prelim - he staged, got the 50, mouthed off at halftime then disappeared without trace. And was crunched by Lynch when Prestia kicked the sealer. Lynch really hates the guy for some reason.

I've never met Lynch but when it comes to Dangerfield I reckon he's a good judge of character.
 
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That free kick has been discussed more than any other but when you actually look at the incident it was a 50-50 call at worst and in that contest Houli actually stages more than Dangerfield does.
Houli got a light push just prior to the contest and ran under the ball. He may well have claimed the free to waste time, but I don't think he staged. There was some contact to Dangerfield and he exaggerated it to the max, with a dead horse flop worthy of Lloyd at his best. Only he knows whether it contributed in some way to his disappearance after the break. Maybe he got a bake from the coach, who knows.
 

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Can't say I respect Dangerfield. It is the diving, which is actually worse because he has enough talent not to stoop to such levels. We all know players milk free kicks but did you see the way Danger played it up in the PF - he was proud of having fooled the umpire with his diving, and even prouder to get the 50m (I'll add he didn't milk that one, it was totally the maggot's doing, called a free kick, did not state, nor signal, who it was for, and then paid 50 when Cotch threw the ball to Houli).

Disrespect comes from the way they act, you dive and are proud of it you get disrespect. You want to see disrespect, just look at the way Lynch reacted to him in that Gold Coast v Adelaide game years ago, there is clearly some disrespect on the field.

Plenty of opposition players I respect, Danger ain't one of them.

DS
Agree

Diverfield is a serial offender, have a look at about the 2.50 minute mark after the Chimp kicked that amazing goal, Autumn leaves went to ground way to easy.

 

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Agree

Diverfield is a serial offender, have a look at about the 2.50 minute mark after the Chimp kicked that amazing goal, Autumn leaves went to ground way to easy.

Time to diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive.
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I'd agree with all of that. It was compounded by the 50 which was just gross incompetence from Razor Ray.
No it wasn't, our player threw the ball to the wrong person. Every time a player gives a free away and has the ball in their hand they run a one man pantomime. Big point at the opponent, then a look to the umpire, is it him? Then repeat once or twice more. All designed to waste as much time as possible before giving the footy back.
They can't have it both ways, if they carry on like that they deserve to cop it when they stuff it up.

Houli got a light push just prior to the contest and ran under the ball. He may well have claimed the free to waste time, but I don't think he staged. There was some contact to Dangerfield and he exaggerated it to the max, with a dead horse flop worthy of Lloyd at his best.
Watch Houli again closely, the arms are going like a tyre shop mascot. It's at least as big a stage as Dangerfield.
 
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antman

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No it wasn't, our player threw the ball to the wrong person. Every time a player gives a free away and has the ball in their hand they run a one man pantomime. Big point at the opponent, then a look to the umpire, is it him? Then repeat once or twice more. All designed to waste as much time as possible before giving the footy back.
They can't have it both ways, if they carry on like that they deserve to cop it when they stuff it up.
The umpire hadn't signalled who the free kick was for had he? Bash staged but genuinely thought the free was his.
 

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The umpire hadn't signalled who the free kick was for had he? Bash staged but genuinely thought the free was his.
Not sure but it doesn't matter. If the whistle goes and the ball is in your hands, you know that you have to get it to the right person. If you throw it without checking then you're asking for trouble.
 
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antman

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Not sure but it doesn't matter. If the whistle goes and the ball is in your hands, you know that you have to get it to the right person. If you throw it without checking then you're asking for trouble.
Fair enough. At the time it seemed pretty harsh but I'm probably biased.

In hindsight it makes Dangerfield's fade-out and our victory even sweeter so I'm glad it happened
 
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Baloo

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Not sure but it doesn't matter. If the whistle goes and the ball is in your hands, you know that you have to get it to the right person. If you throw it without checking then you're asking for trouble.
This argument again. Watch the reply. Rayzor blows the whistle, calls free kick but doesn't say who the freekick is for. It;s incumbant on the umpire to clear signal a free kick. Cotch thought it was his, put his hands up for the ball, Houli threw it to him. Bang 50 for the man who could have won the Birdman Rally with his arms flapping dive.

I know you like to have a dig at us at every opportunity and feel it's your duty to correct us mere mortals, but the simple fact is Rayzor ****** up. Had he done his job and called who the free was for, I doubt Houli would have chucked it to Cotch, nor would have Cotch asked for it.
 
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