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Do Interstate Teams Have An Advantage In The Draft?
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as i said all kids go thru an elite program sooner or later. in wa letssay a kid from the sunday league is a good one he may be in south fremantles zone he is then picked to go into sth freos junior system where he is visible to all.to get drafted you have to be aligned to a wafl club.
anyway i would have thought minor leagues are watched by all clubs and school footy.in some ways the elite programs cut out the need to see minor leagues and school footy as all thebest kids from an early age are funnelled into elite programs which ultimately ends up at colts level in the wafl.
the most hidden player for want of a better way of saying it i have come across is luke mcpharlin he played just one colts game for east freo and went pick 9 i think in 2001 he went to hawthorn.
lastly i think imo is a much needed acronym. far to many posters here cant tell the difference between opinion and fact or take on the general gist of a post.
anyway i would have thought minor leagues are watched by all clubs and school footy.in some ways the elite programs cut out the need to see minor leagues and school footy as all thebest kids from an early age are funnelled into elite programs which ultimately ends up at colts level in the wafl.
the most hidden player for want of a better way of saying it i have come across is luke mcpharlin he played just one colts game for east freo and went pick 9 i think in 2001 he went to hawthorn.
lastly i think imo is a much needed acronym. far to many posters here cant tell the difference between opinion and fact or take on the general gist of a post.
CptJonno2Madcow2005 said:
Didn't Priddis win a Sandover? As for improvingh, didn't Foley go from a a rookie to near All Australian. Kerr falling to 18 - happens every year - Rance this year for example.
Don't buy any of the conspiriracy cap and supporters use it as another excuse for their own poor performing club.
This is rubbish, if you have the eyeballs at the games, you have the same opportunity to see the young talent as the locals do. Problem is due to a lack of attention and lack of funds, these eyeballs have not been in place or made available.
Its not a case of WCE and co hiding players, but a number of the Vic clubs not being professional enough to find them in the first place.
Its not a case of WCE and co hiding players, but a number of the Vic clubs not being professional enough to find them in the first place.
Look at it this way. Forget about specific clubs and which ones have good or poor recruiting systems in place.
There are about 700 players on AFL lists, approx half of these are former Victorian Juniors. That's roughly 350 players who are mined out of Victoria.
There are ten teams in Victoria and each needs 44 players, that's 440 players who are employed by the Vic clubs at any given time.
So, the ten Victorian clubs need to find about another 90 players from somewhere to field their teams, yes?
Now look at the six interstate clubs. Without confirming the actual numbers, there would be at least 10 Victorians on each interstate list-minimum 60 players who have been mined out of Victoria. There are probably more but I can't be fagged counting them. Even if it is only 40, the point will stand up.
This means that the ten Victorian clubs are deficit producers, their state produces 350 players but they need to employ 440. The six interstaters don't do them any favours by taking at least 60 kids away from them before they even start, leaving a shortfall of about 150 players for the ten Victorian clubs to find just to break even. They have to scour the rest of Australia (and Ireland) to get them.
So which is the easier task? Finding 60 players in a small, densely populated state that runs a very open and transparent junior system or finding 150 players in the rest of the country where juniors could be playing anywhere and there are no welcoming committees with brass bands?
All other things being equal, the interstaters are laughing. Give them the added advantage of more ready cash than the Vics and it just gets worse.
Then we have a drafting system which essentially lines the sixteen clubs up and makes them choose one at a time before a club gets a second shot at the pool of players, which, of course, makes it even easier for the non-Victorians to rape and pillage in Victoria whilst protecting their own back yard.
Maybe a fairer system would be to exclude the interstaters from drafting a Victorian player until the second or third round of the National Draft? At least that would give the Vics a fighting chance.
Of course, that won't and shouldn't happen. What does need to happen is a re-balance of the equation by booting two clubs out of Victoria.
There are about 700 players on AFL lists, approx half of these are former Victorian Juniors. That's roughly 350 players who are mined out of Victoria.
There are ten teams in Victoria and each needs 44 players, that's 440 players who are employed by the Vic clubs at any given time.
So, the ten Victorian clubs need to find about another 90 players from somewhere to field their teams, yes?
Now look at the six interstate clubs. Without confirming the actual numbers, there would be at least 10 Victorians on each interstate list-minimum 60 players who have been mined out of Victoria. There are probably more but I can't be fagged counting them. Even if it is only 40, the point will stand up.
This means that the ten Victorian clubs are deficit producers, their state produces 350 players but they need to employ 440. The six interstaters don't do them any favours by taking at least 60 kids away from them before they even start, leaving a shortfall of about 150 players for the ten Victorian clubs to find just to break even. They have to scour the rest of Australia (and Ireland) to get them.
So which is the easier task? Finding 60 players in a small, densely populated state that runs a very open and transparent junior system or finding 150 players in the rest of the country where juniors could be playing anywhere and there are no welcoming committees with brass bands?
All other things being equal, the interstaters are laughing. Give them the added advantage of more ready cash than the Vics and it just gets worse.
Then we have a drafting system which essentially lines the sixteen clubs up and makes them choose one at a time before a club gets a second shot at the pool of players, which, of course, makes it even easier for the non-Victorians to rape and pillage in Victoria whilst protecting their own back yard.
Maybe a fairer system would be to exclude the interstaters from drafting a Victorian player until the second or third round of the National Draft? At least that would give the Vics a fighting chance.
Of course, that won't and shouldn't happen. What does need to happen is a re-balance of the equation by booting two clubs out of Victoria.
Re: Clayton Collard (merged)
I'm still waiting for your answer to your own post
IrockZ said:
I'm still waiting for your answer to your own post
I wondered where you'd gone. I thought you must have gone to compile a list as well, for your 1st post as aboveIrockZ said:
the claw said:
You got that right claw and to really trump your argument we managed to pick up a couple of prospective WA troopers as well.
Regardless of where they originally came from, I hope they settle in well and produce the goods for us.gustiger12 said:You got that right claw and to really trump your argument we managed to pick up a couple of prospective WA troopers as well.
As we're going to need them at their best to take us forward
Redford said:
Agreed, it's certainly the best place to play footy that I've ever played on. And cricket too, for that matter. It's a bugger to try to kick goals from those pockets though. The boundary line is in line with the goals for about the first 25 metres!
