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Does International Rules give us tactical lessons we can apply?

AstroboyUK

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Just curious to see if the wise heads of PRE can see any of the IR tactics transferring to regular games.

for example, Sheedy applied 'extreme speed' : far beyond anything we have ever seen in Australian Rules: Could extreme speed be applied, or any other tactics? (assuming rules stay the same)
 
Interesting proposition, Astro.

Whether it be a game of Irish footy, a battle of >100,000 men, a chess match, or a game of AFL footy, strategy and tactics have always been based on creating an advantage over an opponent.

Strategy is usually connected with creating a long term advantage, and tactics with a short term advantage.

Napoleon, a master of strategy, always relied making his army fully mobile to gain an advantage over his military opponents. Firstly, because his armies generally lacked in artillery, and secondly, mobility aided the logistics of his army that he struggled to keep well supplied. His later adversaries, the most notable of which was Wellington, worked on trying to limit the mobility of Napoleon's army, and get it into big static battles. This was very similar to the strategy of the poorly supplied Confederate armies led by Robert E. Lee. Lee had been fully educated in, and was a master of, Napoleonic Grand Strategy & Tactics. Unfortunately, he was also educated into making the same mistakes as Napoleon. The tactics of Meade, then Grant, to counter Lee's advantage, was to engage in big static battles that Lee could never win.

In the case of the Irish side, Sheedy was able to understand their key characteristics. (This was something his predecessor, Garry Lyon had failed to do.) Sheedy was then able to put on the field a team that not only countered the Irish strengths, but also took the best advantage of its weaknesses.

AFL coaches and managers are continually looking for both strategy and tactics to dominate footy. Hafey used a level of fitness and running that was unparalleled amongst his peers, plus some genuine tall forwards. Barassi got his teams to play a handball game, again relying on high levels of fitness. John Kennedy brought in very high levels of body building and strengthening to give his players an advantage.

Tactics tend to be more short term. Some examples can be Barassi switching Dench to CHF in the last quarter of the 1977 drawn GF. John Kennedy sending Bob Keddie to FF in the last quarter of the 1971 GF.  In 1969, Hafey swapped Barrot and  Eric Moore. Another was Sheedy putting Duckworth, then Weston, into attack during the 2nd half of the 1984 GF. All of these to create a short term advantage against an existing opponent.

Already, during Wallace's tenure at Tigerland, his strategy has been to make the Tigers a stronger, more mobile & direct side. And to develop this from younger more skilled players. The long term advantage will be an outcome where we are stronger, faster and too skilled for our opponents. This is sound strategy. An example of his tactics was the move of Brown during the Collingwood game.

Sheedy gained an advantage in the first game and won. His tactics should not be a surprise the 2nd time around, unless he changes his tactics again. Whether that advantage, that he has created in 1st game, is enough to carry him through in the second game, time will tell.

As you can tell, strategy and tactics are one of my favourite passtimes.
 
the tactics used by sheedy was not a surprise, his method was verysimilar to the way he likes to play his bummers only he had more talent and speed at his disposal
its also very similar to the way modern footy is going Swans & Doggies are classic examples

(ie) get players behind the ball and run and link from defence through the middle, at the same time you have speedy fwds that apply defensive pressure to the opposition backs when they try and run the ball out (chase down, & pressure) this equates to percieved pressure, thinking you have less time than you have and turning the ball over (getting caught on the rebound) - soccer has been played this way for years (as has basketball)

the last few AFL premiers (Swans, Lions, Port - right back to the crows - all played running games with fast moving handball and shepards to stop the chaser) add a couple of talls to kick long to and it is a perfect recipe for AFL.

the big difference in the Int games is you cant shephard which assists the speedy chasers in the fwd line and denies time and space for the running defenders

the other main factor from the other night was the Aussies kicked straight - that has a huge impact in any game
 
Let's not forget the Russian tactics of sustained withdrawal and a scorched earth policy that successfully denied the French army's ability to live off the land.

This negated Bonaparte's premise that an army marches on its stomach as their line of supply was overreached leaving them unable to cope with the Russian winter.  Excellent tactics by the Ruskies!

Don't think Sheedy's emptied his bag of tricks yet and he does like performing to an audience.  Next Friday will be interesting.   ;)
 
Roar34 said:
Let's not forget the Russian tactics of sustained withdrawal and a scorched earth policy that successfully denied the French army's ability to live off the land.

This negated Bonaparte's premise that an army marches on its stomach as their line of supply was overreached leaving them unable to cope with the Russian winter.  Excellent tactics by the Ruskies!

Don't think Sheedy's emptied his bag of tricks yet and he does like performing to an audience.  Next Friday will be interesting.   ;)

Well done Roar.

Sheedy's tactics were based for an Irish team that is a mosquito fleet. His tactics would have been different if the Irish team was of a different nature.
 
Speed and skill.

Something that has been lacking at RFC for decades.