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Dustin Martin

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Agree with Titus!

But Dusty knows his footy and is aware of the records and the narratives that matter.
Reckon he's doing his bit towards getting Jack to 700 goals. Unselfish champion is Dusty. Reckon Jack knows it too.
He’s costing me big time in my dream team competition by being unselfish and and not kicking the goals himself.............. the selfish bastard :))
 
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ToraToraTora

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I thought there was only 1 goal where Dusty was takin the *smile* and should've slotted it himself. The others were all pretty legit guy in better possie.
 

RoarEmotion

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I thought there was only 1 goal where Dusty was takin the *smile* and should've slotted it himself. The others were all pretty legit guy in better possie.
Stands out in other teams how much players DON’T do this in general. Clear competitive edge for us. Reckon it would cost us 1 a week where we over share (see Riewoldt not snapping 20m out) but makes us 2-3 better.
 
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ToraToraTora

Two outta three ain't bad.
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Stands out in other teams how much players DON’T do this in general. Clear competitive edge for us. Reckon it would cost us 1 a week where we over share (see Riewoldt not snapping 20m out) but makes us 2-3 better.
We don't eff around when the heat is on. Our decision making around goal is awesome. Cept George. How do I make that run away emoji?
 

Quickdraw

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It remind me a bit of the Billy Connelly gag,

before you judge someone, walk a mile in their shoes. because then you are a mile away from them and you have their shoes ......
Love the Big Yin. Funniest man on the planet. :D
 
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Jason King

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Correct. Its very very hard to find someone good enough, athletic enough and tall enough to man Dusty up.

Geelong went with O'Connor who is quick and also taller than Neale (hard to be shorter) which made it work.

Find me someone who is taller than Dusty, as quick and agile as him and then we can talk. The only way to stop him is to hold and hopefully the umps will then be looking.

The other thing that people forget is the quality of our midfield, the rhetoric that we are a one man team is just that. If they hold Dusty out, we push him forward and then they still have to deal with Prestia, Cotchin, Graham, Bolton etc. 2nd best midfielder for the Lions is Lyons.
How the media could look at what O'Connor did and find that positive is beyond me. All the vision of his contests with Neale showed him either with his back to the ball and impeding access to the contest or clearly holding Neale without possession.
 
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amc11

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How the media could look at what O'Connor did and find that positive is beyond me. All the vision of his contests with Neale showed him either with his back to the ball and impeding access to the contest or clearly holding Neale without possession.
I'm sure Chris Fagan feels exactly the same way as you Jason, so hopefully by the time we play Geelong the added umpire attention will have the cats giving up on that tactic. On one hand the narrative is we want the best players allowed to showcase their skills and the next is how do we stop them - or more particularly how do we stop Dustin Martin!

 
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123cups

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'Unnecessary assists' might cost us a goal once in a while, but they also foster confidence in teammates and encourage a culture of selflessness. It's impossible to measure how many goals we score from the added confidence and culture of selflessness.

Jack must feel pretty good sitting on 8 goals and 2nd in the Coleman.


Stands out in other teams how much players DON’T do this in general. Clear competitive edge for us. Reckon it would cost us 1 a week where we over share (see Riewoldt not snapping 20m out) but makes us 2-3 better.

Agree 100%. For example, Shai Bolton passed it off in a tight Grand Final, but in a different system he might’ve been encouraged to take a shot from the boundary.

The commentators love to highlight it when it doesn’t come off - but there’s a similar or higher chance the kicker will miss it himself anyway.

It’s a competitive advantage, but one of those ones that feels worse than it is. There are moments in games that feel like huge mistakes, but they’re not. Dimma is very reasonable about those moments IMO.
 
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Jason King

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I'm sure Chris Fagan feels exactly the same way as you Jason, so hopefully by the time we play Geelong the added umpire attention will have the cats giving up on that tactic. On one hand the narrative is we want the best players allowed to showcase their skills and the next is how do we stop them - or more particularly how do we stop Dustin Martin!

I hope so amc11! Im feeling as old as Fagan looks anyway :rotfl2

I have never liked taggers as it flies in the face of what the game is about in my opinion. There should not be a separate set of rules for mids and fwds, defenders. It's either holding the man or it's not.

I don't remember this sort of trial by media for Gary jnr in an attempt to have him fail. Shouldn't everyone just enjoy great players doing their thing?
 
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Harry

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Got the Dusty collectable bobblehead for my birthday from the kids. Doesn't look like him unfortunately.
 
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TigerMasochist

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'Unnecessary assists' might cost us a goal once in a while, but they also foster confidence in teammates and encourage a culture of selflessness. It's impossible to measure how many goals we score from the added confidence and culture of selflessness.

Jack must feel pretty good sitting on 8 goals and 2nd in the Coleman.




Agree 100%. For example, Shai Bolton passed it off in a tight Grand Final, but in a different system he might’ve been encouraged to take a shot from the boundary.

The commentators love to highlight it when it doesn’t come off - but there’s a similar or higher chance the kicker will miss it himself anyway.

It’s a competitive advantage, but one of those ones that feels worse than it is. There are moments in games that feel like huge mistakes, but they’re not. Dimma is very reasonable about those moments IMO.
The bonus of all those goal assist efforts is that oppo defences don't know who or when it's going to happen. Means they can't let down for a moment during games and it opens us up to having eight to ten goal scorers on a regular basis.
 
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Streak

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Correct. Its very very hard to find someone good enough, athletic enough and tall enough to man Dusty up.

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Find me someone who is taller than Dusty, as quick and agile as him and then we can talk. The only way to stop him is to hold and hopefully the umps will then be looking.

Amazingly enough I was involved in a discussion like this about a week ago. I was the only Tiger supporter, the other chaps were Eagles and Dockers.

The general consensus was that there is only one player we could come up with who might match up on Dusty, and they great news is that player plays for us already.

We thought Noah Balta.