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Dylan Grimes

eZyT

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I've never seen an instance of a football-related mystery concussion where no-one had any idea of how it occurred.

Im thinking of donating my brain for football-related mystery concussion research.

I was actually just saying to MrsEZ on Saturday morning

'I think I've got another one of those *smile* football-related mystery concussions, and ive got absolutely no idea how it occurred'
 
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The Big Richo

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In what way TBR?

People here are saying there was clearly a couple of incidents where he took some head impact so the protocol should have kicked in and he be taken inside for the 20 minutes to do the assessment.

It may be that he was assessed and it deemed not necessary to do the assessment, but that would obviously be seen as a error now and identified as the incident that caused the concussion.

You have to remember that there are people now who sit there for the entire game and go over the footage on a specially designated system looking for any incidents of head trauma. If PRE posters noticed it then they should have definitely noticed it and it been noted and he checked on by the medical team.

If it is a genuinely unexplainable concussion with no evidence of impact then that is a much more serious situation and would require some fairly rigorous investigation and a longer period out of the game than 12 days.

Tyrone Vickery got hit during a game by the mystery bus. Went down like a bag of Colvan chips.

He smashed heads in a tackle earlier in the game. That incident was a heavy motivator for the new system where vision is constantly scanned for head trauma.
 
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People here are saying there was clearly a couple of incidents where he took some head impact so the protocol should have kicked in and he be taken inside for the 20 minutes to do the assessment.

It may be that he was assessed and it deemed not necessary to do the assessment, but that would obviously be seen as a error now and identified as the incident that caused the concussion.

You have to remember that there are people now who sit there for the entire game and go over the footage on a specially designated system looking for any incidents of head trauma. If PRE posters noticed it then they should have definitely noticed it and it been noted and he checked on by the medical team.

If it is a genuinely unexplainable concussion with no evidence of impact then that is a much more serious situation and would require some fairly rigorous investigation and a longer period out of the game than 12 days.



He smashed heads in a tackle earlier in the game. That incident was a heavy motivator for the new system where vision is constantly scanned for head trauma.
Richo, is there any protocol which allows the MRP to review the Bruce tackle which caused Dylan to concuss with his head hitting the ground with force?
 
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Richo, is there any protocol which allows the MRP to review the Bruce tackle which caused Dylan to concuss with his head hitting the ground with force?
Don't think there will be any AFL review if no report/citing. Two incidents where Bruce hits Grimes' head into the ground and drags him down by the neck to hit the ground. Both in clear view of all those umpires out there and on film ... nothing. Not even a free; certainly no 50m penalty.

No media outrage, of course. It was only a Tigers player.
 
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zippadeee

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If that was Lynch that pushed an opposition players head into the ground as Bruce did, the media would be on it for days on end.
Also if you had any doubts the umpires this year have been crap, just look at the performance of the emergancy umpire from the Bulldogs game. Disaster.
Slobbo brought up last night, but the conversation ended quicker then it started.
What's the AFL doing?
A kid will miss with concussion and they aren't investigating or asking the question where/when did the concussion occur.
Its there job to investigate it.
 

The Big Richo

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Richo, is there any protocol which allows the MRP to review the Bruce tackle which caused Dylan to concuss with his head hitting the ground with force?

Not sure, they do the review after the game and you have to submit any information about injury outcomes as part of that, not sure if they can open it back up later.

But if Grimes' concussion was known on Saturday that would be included in that process, but I guess it is hard for the MRP to identify an incident if the club and player can't.

That's another very curious thing, there's no way we would be trying to protect a player if they caused a concussion so it is quite bizarre we haven't identified an incident on that basis as well.

This is a very strange situation and I can't work out exactly why.
 
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But if Grimes' concussion was known on Saturday that would be included in that process, but I guess it is hard for the MRP to identify an incident if the club and player can't.
They did it for Jake King v Adelaide. The MRP had closed on Monday night and Adelaide said our player suffered delayed concussion, what are you going to do about it? Two weeks, that's what.
 
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DavidSSS

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Sounds like a delayed concussion, the delay can take quite a while. I whacked my head a couple of years ago (6 stitches in emergency but felt fine and continued to feel fine) and got some concussion 2-3 weeks later.

There is so much we don't know about hits to the head.

DS
 

Harry

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It's obvious it was from the front on contact and drag down onto the ground from the scrubber Bruce that lead to Grimes smashing his head onto the turf that caused it.

My question is if the medico's see this head contact but the player gets up and keeps playing, do they have to take him off to assess?
 
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Dylan reports to the Club Doc with "concussion like" symptoms

LOL - it was a hang over , drank too many of his own wines

was looking for an excuse to get off training
 

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My question is if the medico's see this head contact but the player gets up and keeps playing, do they have to take him off to assess?

Absolutely they do if they are concerned the knock may result in a concussion and you really need to rule that out as opposed to in as your margin of error. At least half the time players insist they are fine, often even when they have been unconscious, so talking to them on the ground is a poor assessment.

Usually you have to head out on the ground and tell them I'm not going off until you come with me. Once I had to ask the umpire to tell them he would stop the game unless they left the ground.
 
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Harry

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Absolutely they do if they are concerned the knock may result in a concussion and you really need to rule that out as opposed to in as your margin of error. At least half the time players insist they are fine, often even when they have been unconscious, so talking to them on the ground is a poor assessment.

Usually you have to head out on the ground and tell them I'm not going off until you come with me. Once I had to ask the umpire to tell them he would stop the game unless they left the ground.
So our medicos could be in strife. When I saw the incident I thought it was a heavy knock and was surprised he got up
 

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Absolutely they do if they are concerned the knock may result in a concussion and you really need to rule that out as opposed to in as your margin of error. At least half the time players insist they are fine, often even when they have been unconscious, so talking to them on the ground is a poor assessment.

Usually you have to head out on the ground and tell them I'm not going off until you come with me. Once I had to ask the umpire to tell them he would stop the game unless they left the ground.
I was concussed once.
walked off the ground absolutely fine, with only the help of 2 trainers supporting / holding up my jelly legs,iso i can attest to that the player is the last to know.
I didnt even know there had been a dustup over my prone body.
Lead to CHF, jumped up to reach the ball at its highest point only to be thumped from in front.
I wouldve gone back onto the field and told everyone to put me back on

Hope Grimesy is alright
 
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So our medicos could be in strife. When I saw the incident I thought it was a heavy knock and was surprised he got up

He got up immediately and looked fine, very difficult to work out when to force a player off for a concussion test.

We don't even know which incident is the most likely to have caused this.

DS
 

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Im thinking of donating my brain for football-related mystery concussion research.

I was actually just saying to MrsEZ on Saturday morning

'I think I've got another one of those *smile* football-related mystery concussions, and ive got absolutely no idea how it occurred'
Mate I'm no scientist but I'm pretty sure its the lamb kebab you had on the way home.
 
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eZyT

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He got up immediately and looked fine, very difficult to work out when to force a player off for a concussion test.

We don't even know which incident is the most likely to have caused this.

DS

RFC clearly leads the world in concussion testing too.

2 mystery concussions in a fortnight.

I reckon we must ask them the date of birth of the mayor of the municipality of Buzet.
 
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