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Eagles premiership draft history

Mr Brightside

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Dont think its been done before.With all the talk about how important early picks are I thougt I would have a look at this years premiers draft history an how they made up there team.

5 first round picks(including Banfield an Wirrapunda at 1)
6 round 2 picks
1 father/son rule (Cousins)
5 of the rookie list an intrestingly Nicoski an Graham who were both stiff also came of the rookie list.
5 from round 3 onwards

picks were 1,53,20,25,57,11,38,29,28,3,18,22,53,29,11,1,F/s R,R,R,R,R

I would imagine there Rookie drafting is exceptional compared to others but other then that it is a real variety where they have made there team up from.
 
Overall a club who drafts & recruits well.They have plenty of money to spend on recruiting staff.
 
Only two players (Stenglein & Chick) from other clubs, plus Armstrong via the rookie draft. Well under the competition average.

They also have a clear policy of trading players for draft picks - have traded 34 players & 18 picks for 20 players & 36 picks. By comparison we have traded 22 players & 28 picks for 30 players & 23 picks.
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Only two players (Stenglein & Chick) from other clubs, plus Armstrong via the rookie draft. Well under the competition average.
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Well done again L2R.
Just to add to that, it may seem obvious, but the percentage of WA born players in that side is very high, with a couple of obvious exceptions(Judd). I'm sure the fact that they are in an environment that they are comfortable in (friends and family) would play a part in their success.
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Only two players (Stenglein & Chick) from other clubs, plus Armstrong via the rookie draft. Well under the competition average.

They also have a clear policy of trading players for draft picks - have traded 34 players & 18 picks for 20 players & 36 picks. By comparison we have traded 22 players & 28 picks for 30 players & 23 picks.
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I think you could probably find a trade/draft stat to support any argument. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

I think it is far more important to have a good coach, administration and culture in your club than to nit-pick about this draft or that pick or this trade and that trade. Let's face it, Sydney won a flag with LRT at CHB, turned Barry from a HFF into a FB, picked up Bolton for not much, traded for Hall, hardly had a ruckman...etc etc. West Coast had an average on-paper spine, rookied FF, ruckman & FP, etc etc.


Get the coaching right, the club fundamentals right and everyone pulling in the same direction...and great things can be achieved.  :thumbsup
 
Dean3 said:
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Only two players (Stenglein & Chick) from other clubs, plus Armstrong via the rookie draft. Well under the competition average.

They also have a clear policy of trading players for draft picks - have traded 34 players & 18 picks for 20 players & 36 picks. By comparison we have traded 22 players & 28 picks for 30 players & 23 picks.
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I think you could probably find a trade/draft stat to support any argument. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

I think it is far more important to have a good coach, administration and culture in your club than to nit-pick about this draft or that pick or this trade and that trade. Let's face it, Sydney won a flag with LRT at CHB, turned Barry from a HFF into a FB, picked up Bolton for not much, traded for Hall, hardly had a ruckman...etc etc. West Coast had an average on-paper spine, rookied FF, ruckman & FP, etc etc.


Get the coaching right, the club fundamentals right and everyone pulling in the same direction...and great things can be achieved.  :thumbsup
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They can pay more hence they can trade for Locketts and Halls where the rest of us dream. At the same time they still get more young players to pick from due to their rookie concesssions. They made a grand final with a different coach and culture etc only a few years earlier. Your argument is lacking in merit, reason and sense. On your argument the fact that we can't make finals confirms we have a crap coach, admin and culture, do you agree?
 
Dean3 said:
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Only two players (Stenglein & Chick) from other clubs, plus Armstrong via the rookie draft. Well under the competition average.

They also have a clear policy of trading players for draft picks - have traded 34 players & 18 picks for 20 players & 36 picks. By comparison we have traded 22 players & 28 picks for 30 players & 23 picks.
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I think you could probably find a trade/draft stat to support any argument. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

I think it is far more important to have a good coach, administration and culture in your club than to nit-pick about this draft or that pick or this trade and that trade. Let's face it, Sydney won a flag with LRT at CHB, turned Barry from a HFF into a FB, picked up Bolton for not much, traded for Hall, hardly had a ruckman...etc etc. West Coast had an average on-paper spine, rookied FF, ruckman & FP, etc etc.


Get the coaching right, the club fundamentals right and everyone pulling in the same direction...and great things can be achieved.  :thumbsup
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wce have done it in a way so they have a dynasty. they have one of the youngest lists and could well do a brisbane. their window for a flag is open for 5yrs and when you consider kids like hurn nicoski sphanger morton and a couple of others are waiting for their chance. and the natural improvement of butler hansen graham brett jones lecras rosa seaby and my favorite wce [player beau waters i wish we had 2 or 3 of this type.]
 
Agreed the Eagles have a very imposing group of youngsters, who are not only talented but physically more impressive then our youngsters in regard to body size and strength.

The likes of Waters, Nicoski, Hurn, Rosa have bigger bodies allowing for more rapid development as they are not scared to put their frames in.

Just compare them to the likes of Meyer and Bling who still look like boys out there compared to the Coasters youngsters.
 
One thing the Coasters do very well and have done for years is trade so called name players for better picks at talented kids.

Over the journey the Eagles offloaded many players in Wrensted, White, Turley, Jackson, Breman, Read, Schofield ect ect to other clubs in return for youngsters.

The ability of West Coast to nab quality kids is quite astounding and puts our recruiters to shame over the same period.
 
craig said:
One thing the Coasters do very well and have done for years is trade so called name players for better picks at talented kids.

Over the journey the Eagles offloaded many players in Wrensted, White, Turley, Jackson, Breman, Read, Schofield ect ect to other clubs in return for youngsters.

The ability of West Coast to nab quality kids is quite astounding and puts our recruiters to shame over the same period.
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yep agree we as a club have always hung onto players to long. mainly because of list needs ie schulz should have been offered around last yr but the lack of kpp does not allow this it all comes down to terrible list management which continues.
 
Yep without getting into semantics it just shows the Coasters certainly know how to wheel and deal, in regards to getting rid of good players in favour of youngsters that will possibly become very good players, as well as possible league stars.
The tigers would do well to follow suit in this tregard and stop hanging onto players for too long, for whatever reasons.
I still reckon hanging onto players cos they are a certain height or age is foolhardy especially when they are ordinary footballers.
You wont see the likes of the Coasters doing such things.
 
Noticed that a very high proportion of West Coast players actually originated from WA. Doesn't anyone think that when you have a player pool at your feet, with very little interstate competition for their services, that you have a distinct advantage? I understand that West Coast have recruited well from their own stocks but the rules for them are very different to the Victorian teams. Having a recruiting team that is on the ground in WA at all times must be a huge advantage.

I think this highlights the fact that Victorian teams have largely ignored the WA talent in the past, and need to do more but you will always fight with the costs of doing so, and the fact that WA players prefer to play in their own state. I think WA is a bad example of a team to look at their recruiting policy as one to blueprint because of their unique advantage.

Be interesting hypothetically to see what would happen if WA and SA had 2 more teams each, another in Canberra and Hobart and only 4 in Melbourne.
 
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