cagedtiger said:
One headlock - that's not a purple patch!! Mal Brown's headlock and 4 left hooks against Carlton - that was a purple patch ;D
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Fevola: A golden opportunity missed
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One headlock - that's not a purple patch!! Mal Brown's headlock and 4 left hooks against Carlton - that was a purple patch ;D
yeah wel in essence we couldve had a fwd line of Franklin, Pavlich, Richardson, Brown, Fevola and schulz....
....all history now!
....all history now!
AstuteTiger said:
With our ability to ruin young talent, Pavlich would be stuck at Coburg anyway.
DragicevicFan said:
I'm beginning to think that too Dragga - it's less about the players, more about the system and culture.........
My thoughts on Fev are easily defined by a slight adjustment of the thread heading:
FEVOLA - An opportunity missed - GOLD!
From memory Fev cuased many debate on PRE and the majority of people here thought is was a shocking idea.
Bit shocked to see some poeple claiming they wanted the deal.
We missed one here big time, I thought Fev got talked out of coming to Punt Rd by Pagan.
I think we were willing to give up pick 8 and Ray Hall. That deal had me more excited then any other mishap of my time following the Tigers. A lot of people on PRE thought Fev was very average and not worth the hassle.
The Willie Mason look-a-like has put together some very solid numbers and will only get better.
Bit shocked to see some poeple claiming they wanted the deal.
We missed one here big time, I thought Fev got talked out of coming to Punt Rd by Pagan.
I think we were willing to give up pick 8 and Ray Hall. That deal had me more excited then any other mishap of my time following the Tigers. A lot of people on PRE thought Fev was very average and not worth the hassle.
The Willie Mason look-a-like has put together some very solid numbers and will only get better.
I don't mind putting my hand up as one who had major concerns about Fev.
1. Carlton were looking at us giving up premium draft choices to get him.
2. Fevola was looking at being paid at the very highest levels.
3. He'd had regular & persistant groin injuries that had affected his previous seasons.
4. His off-field behaviour had been of concern.
I must also admit that the Fev scenario did affect my judgement on Kingsley.
1. Kingsley was an established & regular FF in an AFL team.
2. His behaviour at Geelong didn't have any blemishes.
3. He too had injuries the previous season, but since Fev had recovered, so might Kingsley.
4. Kingsley came for a song.
If I'd stayed with my tried & tested thoughts I'd have rejected Kingsley, as I did Fev.
Kingsley was a mistake, as has been proved.
If Kingsley had been fit at season's beginning, no doubt Schulz would have been left out of the team, or played down back.
Towards the future, we have Schulz, Hughes & Reiwoldt as very good junior forwards who need to be given proper opportunity.
With that, Pattison needs to be given senior time to develop his decision-making, skills & agility.
And hopefully, next season, we'll be fitting an AFL-ready, 199cm Matt Kreuzer into the team.
1. Carlton were looking at us giving up premium draft choices to get him.
2. Fevola was looking at being paid at the very highest levels.
3. He'd had regular & persistant groin injuries that had affected his previous seasons.
4. His off-field behaviour had been of concern.
I must also admit that the Fev scenario did affect my judgement on Kingsley.
1. Kingsley was an established & regular FF in an AFL team.
2. His behaviour at Geelong didn't have any blemishes.
3. He too had injuries the previous season, but since Fev had recovered, so might Kingsley.
4. Kingsley came for a song.
If I'd stayed with my tried & tested thoughts I'd have rejected Kingsley, as I did Fev.
Kingsley was a mistake, as has been proved.
If Kingsley had been fit at season's beginning, no doubt Schulz would have been left out of the team, or played down back.
Towards the future, we have Schulz, Hughes & Reiwoldt as very good junior forwards who need to be given proper opportunity.
With that, Pattison needs to be given senior time to develop his decision-making, skills & agility.
And hopefully, next season, we'll be fitting an AFL-ready, 199cm Matt Kreuzer into the team.
Phantom said:
I'm surprised you think this way.
A team should always be looking to do two things, retain their good players and find more of them.
As you point out, Kingsley cost nothing, just the last spot on the list. If his presence gets in Schulz's way, then Schulz isn't trying hard enough and needs to pull his finger out. Same for Reivoldt, Hughes and Pattison. It won't hurt them to play as the three tall forwards at Coburg for the rest of this season, with the occasional run at Richmond. If one of these juniors decides there is too much competition up forward so he will work his backside off to win the vacant Full back spot, it is another win. I would have no problem if Kingsley's presence encourages Jack to grab the full back spot. Hughes looks a bit half-hearted about this opportunity. What does it say about him?
Kruezer would be a fantastic fit for our team. Another tall forward/ruckman is exactly what we need. If Kingsley's presence forces one of these guys to play 5 or 6 outstanding games in a row at Coburg to displace him, that is a win for the club.
If Kingsley goes back to Coburg and goes bananas, that is even better. The more competition for places, the better it is. Opportunities will come with injuries etc.
As we have seen with Simmonds, Hall and Kingsleygoing down, replacements were thin on the ground. Get as many reasonable players as we can together and make them fight for their spots. Thats how you find out which of your juniors are going to make it.
tigerjoe said:
And just who is in our side is going to kick it to him?? Fev would get as frustrated as Richo does by all the petty handballing that we do when we get in anywhere from the back pocket to the wing! And we would prob still kick it to Richo, even when he has 3 blokes on him!
It can't be changed - look forward, not back