Agreed, and draws might be good enough, but a win for any of the teams in Australias last 2 games, will open up the group for that team.
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FIFA World Cup 22
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Agreed, and draws might be good enough, but a win for any of the teams in Australias last 2 games, will open up the group for that team.
Limiting the damage? You dont sit back against one of the best teams in the world and invite pressure.
Under Arnold there is no plan and no game style.
You think they would have won if they had taken the game to France? Leaving far more room for the likes of Mbappe and Dembele?
Seems you might be seriously under rating the quality of the current World Champions.
Nup. I don't expect us to get out of the Group. France and Denmark are too good. What I expect is to see a young team that is developing a style that will take them forward to better international performances in years to come. That was deer in the headlights stuff today; we were totally intimidated by France. Like a suburban footy team playing a top 4 AFL team.
That was a very boring and disappointing performance but again that is on the coach. He has always been like that. To be fair to the players, they are obviously a fair way off the level of the French, but they are not totally hopeless. That first goal a case in point. Beautiful long ball from Mooy (I think?) to Leckie who showed exquisite control and then a superb cross to Goodwoin for a clinical finish. It was world class play. But then they just retreated into their shells and played timid for the rest of the game.
Not sure anyone said we'd win, but at least give yourself a chance by taking the game on.
Don't give yourself that chance and you're guaranteed to lose
"So you're telling me there's a chance?"
We've got next to no hope of progressing with a -3 goal difference after the first game. Unless we can miraculously beat both Denmark and Tunisia. But to me that's not the point; it's about the way we play and try to develop this young and inexperienced team. This is great experience for them and we should make the most of the opportunity; not just park the bus and hope for nil all draws.
we only need to win 1, and draw the other, and expect France not to lose. not sure why that should be so hard!"So you're telling me there's a chance?"
We've got next to no hope of progressing with a -3 goal difference after the first game. Unless we can miraculously beat both Denmark and Tunisia. But to me that's not the point; it's about the way we play and try to develop this young and inexperienced team. This is great experience for them and we should make the most of the opportunity; not just park the bus and hope for nil all draws.
or draw both and hope France win by 3 or more in all their games.
As I've said, I think the plan was always damage limitation against the French. They didn't expect to win and decided that their best chance of progression was to limit the goal difference.
They should be far more attacking in the last 2 games, if they aren't then I will join the chorus of discontent on Arnold as you cannot go to the world cup and hope to progress with nil nil draws, it doesn't work.
"So you're telling me there's a chance?"
We've got next to no hope of progressing with a -3 goal difference after the first game. Unless we can miraculously beat both Denmark and Tunisia. But to me that's not the point; it's about the way we play and try to develop this young and inexperienced team. This is great experience for them and we should make the most of the opportunity; not just park the bus and hope for nil all draws.
The draw between Tunisia and Denmark has opened this opportunity up though regardless of goal difference. Win 1 and draw the other, then hope France do their job and beat both (they've lost to Denmark twice recently btw) and Australia can progress.
I don't expect they will qualify, but I would expect them to be far more attacking in the last 2 games. If they aren't then Arnold has to go.
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Maybe, or maybe they just played the way they've been coached to play by Arnold.
You can't limit damage against France by sitting back and inviting them to attack. You've got to attack back and try to disrupt their gamepan. But to do that we'd need to find a coach who understands what a game plan is and have the ability to read one.
You get one chance at these teams. The first game of your group you must go all out. other matches you can tweek a little depending on if you have to win or have to stop a loss. But not the first game.
You can't limit damage against France by sitting back and inviting them to attack. You've got to attack back and try to disrupt their gamepan. But to do that we'd need to find a coach who understands what a game plan is and have the ability to read one.
You get one chance at these teams. The first game of your group you must go all out. other matches you can tweek a little depending on if you have to win or have to stop a loss. But not the first game.
Yes many permutations and combinations. I was hoping for a win or a draw against Tunisia but can't see us beating or drawing with Denmark who has beaten France twice in recent times. But yeah if we can get a win and a draw, and Denmark and Tunisia both lose to France then we're in
Highly unlikely though. But just play more attacking football lads. In other words ignore everything Arnold says.
Has Arnold ever got his tactics right? He also never changes tactics mid game waits to long to make sub then generally like for like. Good A league coach but not a a world stage coach.
Agree. We sat back an invited the pressure but deep in our defensive half. There were no hard tackles, shoving, general rough play that Australia had historically. The French had time on the ball as there was not defensive pressure on the ball carrier
Oh come on Posh where did I say that? Of course they werent going to beat them. However at least have a plan to limit their influence on the contest. We parked the bus and still copped 4. The few times we did press we forced France to cough up possession. This was highlighted with Duke almost scoring a ripper when he won it in our front third. Our goal was a great build up. Attacking style that rattled the French. We at least provided a contest in those few moments. But our great coach was hell bent on parking the bus and hoping somehow France would have a bad day in front of goal.
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