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Certainly more than once.

We are crying out for midfielders above scrawny that's why he will be perserveered with.

Not forever but he will be given next year.

it's commonsense

We will have plenty worse to cull first.
 
vosstiger said:
Certainly more than once.

We are crying out for midfielders above scrawny that's why he will be perserveered with.

Not forever but he will be given next year.

it's commonsense

We will have plenty worse to cull first.

Only once to my knowledge this year.

Who other than Hyde and Tiva?
 
WesternTiger said:
Only once to my knowledge this year.

Who other than Hyde and Tiva?

You have named the obvious 2

I don't think their will be more than 5 changes

So in trouble would be Pettifer and JON(uncontracted), Howat will not be rerookied but that doesn't really count.

As good as he has been this year I have doubts about the captain going on, and I will be suprised if Bowden doesn't gracefully retire.

There are always suprises though, another that will be in the pressure group is Casserly(Is contracted though).

There are still about 10 players uncontracted but at least half of those will certainly be staying the other 4/5 will probably head the suprise delisting group.

A month before the end of last year there was no way Peterson was going to go, then he stamped his own papers.

A fair bit of water will flow under the RFC bridge in the remaining weeks and it will decide the fate of many, and maybe you will be right and that will include Jacko, but the wind is not blowing in his direction at the moment
 
vosstiger said:
You have named the obvious 2

I don't think their will be more than 5 changes

So in trouble would be Pettifer and JON(uncontracted), Howat will not be rerookied but that doesn't really count.

As good as he has been this year I have doubts about the captain going on, and I will be suprised if Bowden doesn't gracefully retire.

There are always suprises though, another that will be in the pressure group is Casserly(Is contracted though).

There are still about 10 players uncontracted but at least half of those will certainly be staying the other 4/5 will probably head the suprise delisting group.

A month before the end of last year there was no way Peterson was going to go, then he stamped his own papers.

A fair bit of water will flow under the RFC bridge in the remaining weeks and it will decide the fate of many, and maybe you will be right and that will include Jacko, but the wind is not blowing in his direction at the moment
Stopped typing too soon add Danny Meyer to that list as well as like Casserley serious doubts about body being able to take the rigours of AFL level
 
WesternTiger said:
Not saying Cartledge is great but easy for your bomber mates to make judgement on a young ruck before he had reached 21.
I suspect they love Laycock thought!
Nope, they reckon he is also a dud
 
vosstiger said:
Stopped typing too soon add Danny Meyer to that list as well as like Casserley serious doubts about body being able to take the rigours of AFL level

Meyer I probably agree with but Casserley we should persist with, his body should eventually come right and he is too talented to not give a big chance.
 
vosstiger said:
Stopped typing too soon add Danny Meyer to that list as well as like Casserley serious doubts about body being able to take the rigours of AFL level


Casserely is a smart footballer. Remember, Moore had the same issues with his body, things have(touch wood) tuned for him and the Tiges.
 
vosstiger said:
Stopped typing too soon add Danny Meyer to that list as well as like Casserley serious doubts about body being able to take the rigours of AFL level

This is were the argument for keeping Jackson falls down.

Jackson has been on the list two and three years longer than Meyer and Cass respectively and he certainly hasn't had the injury problems they have had but people would be content for them to go and for us to keep Jackson.

The reason I only put Hyde and Tiva down is because you stated "We will have plenty worse to cull first". I didn't put Petts because he is a better footballer than Jackson but I agree he will (and should) be traded.

Howat doesn't count.

JON well he has time on his side.

Johnno I would be happy if he hung up the boots.

I just don't think Jackson is safe and would be happy to see him go before Meyer, Cass and even JON.
 
WesternTiger said:
Jackson has been on the list two and three years longer than Meyer and Cass respectively and he certainly hasn't had the injury problems they have had but people would be content for them to go and for us to keep Jackson.
Actually it's only one year longer than Meyer, Lids & Co, he was taken at the end of the 2003 draft. He's also only 3 months older than Meyer, Polo & Tambling.

I think Jackson was pretty good at the start of the year until he almost had his ear ripped off his head in that head collision going hard for a contest. People have short memoried. Pretty sure he'll be with us next year, there are plenty who need to go before him.
 
geez jacksons in his 5th yr has stagnated for the last 3yrs so what do we do. i know what the club will do they will give him another two yrs and delist him at the end of them. it will be typical rfc taking to long to make a hard decision and hurting us in the long term.we have 15 odd potential andrew karakouers/ daniel jacksons on our list. leave em all there for a minimum of 7 yrs and watch the spoons roll in.
 
ZeroGame said:
Actually it's only one year longer than Meyer, Lids & Co, he was taken at the end of the 2003 draft. He's also only 3 months older than Meyer, Polo & Tambling.

I think Jackson was pretty good at the start of the year until he almost had his ear ripped off his head in that head collision going hard for a contest. People have short memoried. Pretty sure he'll be with us next year, there are plenty who need to go before him.

As I said earlier Zero who?
 
ZeroGame said:
Hyde, Tivendale, Bowden, Johnson, Pettifer

I agree that they all need to go but four of them are better or on par with Jackson as footballers. The only difference is age.

This year or next he is gawn.
 
WesternTiger said:
I agree that they all need to go but four of them are better or on par with Jackson as footballers. The only difference is age.

This year or next he is gawn.
I have no problem with that, but the fact that Jackson is still young shows that he still has improvement in him. He's shown that he can play, was quite good as a tagger, certainly better than Hyde.
I wouldn't give him more than perhaps another year to cement his spot in the side, but I'd still give him that extra time.

If the 5 above go, perhaps also trade away another player and cut the 3 older rookies, we'll still turn over 20% of the list. That's enough for one year. It comes down to balance, if you cut everyone you don't think is up to it in one year, then it makes the job a lot harder the following year when you are then forced to delist decent players, perhaps before theyve even had an opportunity to show what they've got.

By getting rid of senior players at the end of this year, we need a few who have some years in the system who can play more than just a support role. Jackson has a bigger body which can take the knocks and the alternative is playing some skinny kid who isn't ready. If he doesn't come on then fine, I won't argue against him going, but Kelvin Moore has shown us this year what a little patience can result in.
 
Well said nhendo.
I have very similar sentiments (and vintage and Tiger history too it woud seem!)
 
vosstiger said:
How many of you forget that Jacko is only just turned 22 during the season.

He was drafted as a 17YO.

He is one of the few strong bodied types we have and has been groomed at Coburg as a midfielder for a bit over a year only.

He plays grunt midfielder their and tags when in Richmond colors but he can get his own ball and will IMO become a midfielder in his own right.

Add to that he has played back in the seniors at 17 and can also pinch hit in the forward line.

He is an athlete who is being groomed to be a footballer that takes a little more time. Richo was never a natural footballer and has learnt to be one along the way.

He shouldn't be bracketed with the much older players that people continue to mention are finished

He is still younger now than the age we drafted Jake King and many refer to him as youmg

An athlete being groomed as a footballer - says it all. Along with JON hey? Give them another 2-3 years clogging up our list hey?

Please refrain from comparing Jacko to Richo - one has both athletic and football ability the other is neither comparable as an athlete nor will ever have enough football ability to make it at AFL level
 
Big Cat Lover said:
An athlete being groomed as a footballer - says it all. Along with JON hey? Give them another 2-3 years clogging up our list hey?

Please refrain from comparing Jacko to Richo - one has both athletic and football ability the other is neither comparable as an athlete nor will ever have enough football ability to make it at AFL level
As this was my 1st post, having reviewed comments, I would like to revise opinion of Jackson to "watch and review at seasons end".