Just wanted to follow up the Redman thread on "...holding your nerve etc" with a bit of hard analysis regarding our recruiting since 2000 - but do it in a stand alone thread. So here goes:
The long overdue review of the footy department instigated by Gary March can start by carefully scrutinising our junior player recruitment. The evidence is fairly damning as indicated in the following table showing players that we chose compared to players taken later in the same draft that have proven to be far superior in retrospect:
2000 National Draft
Pettifer 8 – S Burgoyne (12)
Krakouer (41) – Cross (56)
Sziller (57) – Johncock (67)
2000 Rookie Draft
Ben Haynes (5) – D Cox (28)
2001 National Draft
Stafford traded for pick 17 – Matt Maguire (21)
Rodan (34) – A Hansen (38)
2001 Rookie Draft
Garth Taylor 8 – D Peverill (32)
2002 National Draft
Schulz (12) – B Schammer (13)
2002 Rookie Draft
K de Pasquale (14) – D Bradshaw (16)
B Miller (30) – A Sandilands (33)
M Barker (39) – M Mattner (45)
2003 Pre-season Draft
No 2 pick not used – C Bolton (3)
2003 National Draft
Gilmour (21) – J Adcock (33)
Jackson (53) – M Rischitelli (61)
2003 Rookie Draft
Moore (3) – B Sewell (7)
M Shir (19) – J Porplyzia (29)
2004 National Draft
Tambling (4) – Franklin (5)
Meyer (12) – Bate (13)
Pattison (16) – C Wood (18)
McGuane (36) – Maric (40)
Limbach (52) – M Egan (63)
2004 Rookie Draft
Pick 36 not utilised – J Drummond (47)
2005 National Draft
Oakley-Nicholls 8 – Shaun Higgins (11) / Grant Birchall (14)
2005 Rookie Draft
Pick 17 not utilised – C Young (17)
It's easy to say that its an easy target to cmplie this list in hindsight. Equally, it would be hard to argue that this represents anything but chronic failure to recognise young talent.
The argument that 14 other teams besides the Tigers also overlooked these players is not sustainable. Some of those teams actually chose players that were equal to or better than the players shown with their respective picks. Or they chose according to their list needs at the time and deliberately selected another player of perhaps lesser quality in a list position that was acutely lacking.
So given perfect hindsight we could currently have a team that looked like:
FB: Raines Maguire Jbo
HB: Johncock Bolton Egan
C: Matter Cross Deledio
HF: Franklin Hansen Brown
FF: Higgins Richo Bradshaw
R: Cox S Burgoyne Foley
INT: Sandilands Adcock Rischitelli Thursfield
Or, more realistically – even if we got one third of the selections correct we could have a team like:
FB: Adcock Maguire Jbo
HB: Johncock Polak Raines
C: Matter Cross Deledio
HF: Franklin Rricho Brown
FF: Higgins Schulz Simmonds
R: Cox S Burgoyne Foley
INT: Polo Cogs Thursfield Hughes
In summary, our recruiting under Miller has been poor. As the above lists show, it is high time that we reviewed this section of the football club.
The long overdue review of the footy department instigated by Gary March can start by carefully scrutinising our junior player recruitment. The evidence is fairly damning as indicated in the following table showing players that we chose compared to players taken later in the same draft that have proven to be far superior in retrospect:
2000 National Draft
Pettifer 8 – S Burgoyne (12)
Krakouer (41) – Cross (56)
Sziller (57) – Johncock (67)
2000 Rookie Draft
Ben Haynes (5) – D Cox (28)
2001 National Draft
Stafford traded for pick 17 – Matt Maguire (21)
Rodan (34) – A Hansen (38)
2001 Rookie Draft
Garth Taylor 8 – D Peverill (32)
2002 National Draft
Schulz (12) – B Schammer (13)
2002 Rookie Draft
K de Pasquale (14) – D Bradshaw (16)
B Miller (30) – A Sandilands (33)
M Barker (39) – M Mattner (45)
2003 Pre-season Draft
No 2 pick not used – C Bolton (3)
2003 National Draft
Gilmour (21) – J Adcock (33)
Jackson (53) – M Rischitelli (61)
2003 Rookie Draft
Moore (3) – B Sewell (7)
M Shir (19) – J Porplyzia (29)
2004 National Draft
Tambling (4) – Franklin (5)
Meyer (12) – Bate (13)
Pattison (16) – C Wood (18)
McGuane (36) – Maric (40)
Limbach (52) – M Egan (63)
2004 Rookie Draft
Pick 36 not utilised – J Drummond (47)
2005 National Draft
Oakley-Nicholls 8 – Shaun Higgins (11) / Grant Birchall (14)
2005 Rookie Draft
Pick 17 not utilised – C Young (17)
It's easy to say that its an easy target to cmplie this list in hindsight. Equally, it would be hard to argue that this represents anything but chronic failure to recognise young talent.
The argument that 14 other teams besides the Tigers also overlooked these players is not sustainable. Some of those teams actually chose players that were equal to or better than the players shown with their respective picks. Or they chose according to their list needs at the time and deliberately selected another player of perhaps lesser quality in a list position that was acutely lacking.
So given perfect hindsight we could currently have a team that looked like:
FB: Raines Maguire Jbo
HB: Johncock Bolton Egan
C: Matter Cross Deledio
HF: Franklin Hansen Brown
FF: Higgins Richo Bradshaw
R: Cox S Burgoyne Foley
INT: Sandilands Adcock Rischitelli Thursfield
Or, more realistically – even if we got one third of the selections correct we could have a team like:
FB: Adcock Maguire Jbo
HB: Johncock Polak Raines
C: Matter Cross Deledio
HF: Franklin Rricho Brown
FF: Higgins Schulz Simmonds
R: Cox S Burgoyne Foley
INT: Polo Cogs Thursfield Hughes
In summary, our recruiting under Miller has been poor. As the above lists show, it is high time that we reviewed this section of the football club.
