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Football department review

Azza

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Does anyone know the TOR for the football department review Cameron is supposed to be undertaking? With the entrenched failure at the club surely we need something more far-reaching, including how the football department is directed by/interacts with the board. Cameron shouldn't be doing it either. His role should be examined as well.
 
They need an outsider to be involved in this as well. Cameron and Free are both Richmond people so there is a chance their judgement could be clouded by emotion..which is only natural.

Hopefully the review will clearly illustrate that;

* recruiting is the most important part of the club and the necessary resources are directed that way. Aim for 2 full timers plus a recruiter in each state being overseen by Cameron.
* Development coaches to be increased to 2 full timers
* A template of a premiership team list is developed and finalised with the new coach and any player that doesn't fit that template is disregarded. ie no recycling hacks
* Must have a structure where one man doesn't have more power than is necessary.
* The developed and agreed upon strategy is the bible but must retain some level of flexibility
* Fitness department to be reviewed to ensure they are properly resourced in manpower and facilities (Our gym is crap, can it be rectified in the short term before the new facilities are built.)
 
BrisTiger24 said:
I thought Free was overseeing the review. Agree that it can't be Cameron as he should be subject to it.

Patrick Smith in his usual nasty way was recently sarcastically saying that the media hadn't heard from Cameron re Terry's future because he had been undertaking a review of the football department. Or maybe it was just the players he was reviewing? Not sure. Either way, it sounds too limited. Maybe other reviews are planned but not flagged in the media?
 
Azza said:
Patrick Smith in his usual nasty way was recently sarcastically saying that the media hadn't heard from Cameron re Terry's future because he had been undertaking a review of the football department. Or maybe it was just the players he was reviewing? Not sure. Either way, it sounds too limited. Maybe other reviews are planned but not flagged in the media?

My understanding was it was the list. The review last yeae was on the football department (personally I suspect to make moves this year) and now they are doing a "in depth review of the playing list for the long term future". Thing is we are hearing things from the media and not the club so it is not really worth much salt right now.
 
Ghost of 29 said:
They need an outsider to be involved in this as well. Cameron and Free are both Richmond people so there is a chance their judgement could be clouded by emotion..which is only natural.

Hopefully the review will clearly illustrate that;

* recruiting is the most important part of the club and the necessary resources are directed that way. Aim for 2 full timers plus a recruiter in each state being overseen by Cameron.
* Development coaches to be increased to 2 full timers
* A template of a premiership team list is developed and finalised with the new coach and any player that doesn't fit that template is disregarded. ie no recycling hacks
* Must have a structure where one man doesn't have more power than is necessary.
* The developed and agreed upon strategy is the bible but must retain some level of flexibility
* Fitness department to be reviewed to ensure they are properly resourced in manpower and facilities (Our gym is crap, can it be rectified in the short term before the new facilities are built.)

more development coaches, more recruiters, bolster the footy dept - this thought process worries me. Surely there is more than enough coaches about the place - the players seem confused as it is. One clear message seems to be lacking.
More QUALITY, numbers alone not the answer. Smarter recruiting - if that takes more numbers so be it. Still reckon we just need to be smarter, not more numerous.
 
RFC should employ Margaret and David to do the review. Would likely be more effective.
 
Tiger17 said:
RFC should employ Margaret and David to do the review. Would likely be more effective.

I thought we were watching the same game? Only 2 stars from me.
 
Whilst we all agree that recruiting must be boosted there are other areas that we need to address.

Any review must highlight that more resources are to be applied to player development. 2 fulltime coaches are not enough! At the moment, we have Rawlings and Macrae. We need more.

The review should specify that Coburg's 12/10 rule is not assisting in proper player development. If we are to be a power we need a stand alone club not relying on winning games but to develope players.

Finally, player conditioning is an issue. Spend money on the best gym facilities, hyperbaric chambers and oxygen tents etc. NOW!!!!

It is time that we got fair dinkum and returned our club to it's glory days!!! :D
 
Azza said:
Does anyone know the TOR for the football department review Cameron is supposed to be undertaking? With the entrenched failure at the club surely we need something more far-reaching, including how the football department is directed by/interacts with the board. Cameron shouldn't be doing it either. His role should be examined as well.
His public performance has been dreadful but he got a 5 year deal so he'll be doing the review.
 
Dyer Disciple said:
My understanding was it was the list. The review last yeae was on the football department (personally I suspect to make moves this year) and now they are doing a "in depth review of the playing list for the long term future".

Correct. I think its a continuation of what he began when he was made List Mgr.
 
"Hopefully the review will clearly illustrate that;
* recruiting is the most important part of the club and the necessary resources are directed that way. Aim for 2 full timers plus a recruiter in each state being overseen by Cameron.
* Development coaches to be increased to 2 full timers
* A template of a premiership team list is developed and finalised with the new coach and any player that doesn't fit that template is disregarded. ie no recycling hacks
* Must have a structure where one man doesn't have more power than is necessary.
* The developed and agreed upon strategy is the bible but must retain some level of flexibility
* Fitness department to be reviewed to ensure they are properly resourced in manpower and facilities (Our gym is crap, can it be rectified in the short term before the new facilities are built.)"

RE THE ABOVE...
My understanding is that the review of the football dept, commenced approx 18 months ago by President Gary March, has indeed both concluded and delivered the first two points on recruiting team and development coaches, also the right structure, likely a recruiting strategy (hopefully the right one), and with the new development plan of Punt Road, state of the art fitness facilities from 2010(see club website).

We actually have a good news story here - giant strides have been made from what was an amateurish and shambolic club in 2002-2004 under Clinton Casey.
Unfortunately, we won't see this good news story play out on the field from some time, as we will be paying for the past amateurish and shambolic recruiting mistakes for a while yet.
But we are a long way from where we were, to the point of being back in the game off-field. Can't get on-field right till you have off-field sorted.

That's why people calling for ritual slayings of everyone from the Prez to the bootstudder need to analyse a little more deeply.
If supporters storm the ballistrades now, it will likely do more harm than good.
 
I know Cameron came over with huge wraps on his ability, but I look at the Melbourne list and can't help but wonder sometimes...
 
Baloo said:
I know Cameron came over with huge wraps on his ability, but I look at the Melbourne list and can't help but wonder sometimes...

Well they beat us with a lot of thier kids playing well, Nathan Jones was a real pain in the neck. He is one of the type of players we desparately need, a hardnut who gets the ball on the 1/2 backline & drives it long into the forwards. Seems to hit the target more than our lot do too.
 
Baloo said:
I know Cameron came over with huge wraps on his ability, but I look at the Melbourne list and can't help but wonder sometimes...

There's quite a few people saying Melbourne's list is positioned better than ours for the future. What they really need is midfield skill and if they don't win more than 4 games this year they will achieve that in the 2009 draft.
 
pturls said:
more development coaches, more recruiters, bolster the footy dept - this thought process worries me. Surely there is more than enough coaches about the place - the players seem confused as it is. One clear message seems to be lacking.
More QUALITY, numbers alone not the answer. Smarter recruiting - if that takes more numbers so be it. Still reckon we just need to be smarter, not more numerous.

Yes.